Quote Originally Posted by r3dline
Are you saying that his Denon/Hsu satellites would be of better quality than the NAD and B&G gear he mentioned? Because that was the gear he was referring to as, "down the road," wasn't it? Or am I confused. Because there's not much "low quality" about NAD and B&G...especially in comparison with Denon. They're probably around the same boat as far as build quality...if NAD doesn't rank higher than the Denon. I can buy all the Denon I want at the local Circuit City. Can't get NAD there, though...have to go to a specialty shop...
What post did you read? Here's the text of my original post in it's entirety.


Quote Originally Posted by markw
Your Denon/Hsu system will be better than any HTIB he can sell you.

As far as his "down the road" scenario, in either case you will wind up with "older" stuff but with your Denon/Hsu stuff, it'll be better quality.

He simply wants to sell you a HTIB. Probably a bigger spiff.

There are other options out there besides what you mentioned, particularly speakers, but that's another post. What you found isn't too awfully shabby, believe me.
Now, if you don't mind a few questions...

Please point out where I ever said that the Denon/HSU was a "better" system to the NAD / B and W system. ...or is that just something you assumed?

Likewise, where did I imply that they are "low quality"? Or is this another assumption on your part?

Now, I do remember saying it's a "better" system than that $800 HTIB recommended by tghe salesman, don't you agree?

In any case, let's go more on this troublesome "better" adjective you seem to like to misuse so much. How do you intend it be applied here?

"better" in the sense of more prestigious names? NAD and B and W nail that one hands down.

"better" in the sense of the bang for the buck or overall perfomance? Dunno, both NAD and B and W tend to be somewhat on the flat side of the PODR*.

Please clarify. In any case, I'd say that his $1000 was a significant improvement over the recommeded $800 HTIB, wouldn't you?

Afrter all, that was the main thrust of my post. With all your keen insight I fail to see how you could overlook this. Too busy trying to put words in my mouth?

Now, on to my other feelings on this. Everyone determines their own PODR but, IMNSHO, I'd say that his "starter" system is pretty darn close to that point. Extremely good bang for the buck and to realize a little improvement he would need to spend substantially more, particularly if music is a main concern.

For HT I'd say NAD is a bit pricey for what it offers in comparison to the competition. And I may be in a minority, but I'm not overly impressed by B and W. Given my druthers, I'd opt for practically any other speakers on the market, particularly for HT.

...but then again, it's all a preference, isn't it?

FWIW, here’s my system(s) http://cgi.audioasylum.com/systems/1606.html


* PODR = Point of diminishing Returns