Best HDTV of the year

[dean_martin]

I wonder if Sir T is referring to the Portuguese market as the relatively new poster he slammed is from Portugal.

Sir T, your knowledge is invaluable and I always read your posts on topics and products I'm interested in but it might be time for an intervention with regard to your dream-quashing lack of diplomacy. I'm sure many here (and I don't mean Pix, he's in a category unto himself) can share stories of how you hurt them and quashed their dreams of owning the best tv, blu-ray player, etc. or their dreams of even understanding what the hell we're talking about here. But I've never participated in an intervention or watched one on tv so I don't know how to get it started.

BTW, thanks again Smoke. That 40" Samsung for $697 looks like a good replacement for the pos crt in my bedroom.

[Smokey]

I'm not sure the "tier" thing is totally clear but Samsung and Sony are much larger companies. One could argue, though, that Sharp makes their own panels while Sony does not. I think they all have their hits and misses.

If we go to oversea TV market [whole Asia], the "tier" picture become even less clear as LG have locked up market for the mid to lower end market for TVs. But of course price proceed the performance in that market.

The second tier CE companies may offer better customer service, and a more reliable panel overall than the third tier, but panel performance is noticeably less than the first tier CE companies.

I would say that is a fair statement since we can't go by price difference as sometimes there is none. Sometimes second tiers are more expensive

But LG seem to make some headway as their TV was first in USA to receive THX Display Certification (correct gamma, luminance, and color temperature).

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

I would say that is a fair statement since we can't go by price difference as sometimes there is none. Sometimes second tiers are more expensive

Thats true!

But LG seem to make some headway as their TV was first in USA to receive THX Display Certification (correct gamma, luminance, and color temperature).

After the Lexicon debacle with the Bluray player just being an exactly clone of an Oppo with a THX badge slapped on it(it didn't even have the right crossover points), I am less inclined to give the THX badge any credence whatsoever.

I think the proper words would be" at least they PAID for the THX badge".

Gotta keep it real here......

[Smokey]

BTW, thanks again Smoke. That 40" Samsung for $697 looks like a good replacement for the pos crt in my bedroom.

If it is for bedroom, you may also want to check out Samsung new 40 inch LCD LN40C500 for $500. Very short on inputs though.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

I wonder if Sir T is referring to the Portuguese market as the relatively new poster he slammed is from Portugal.

Dean, Nasir is not new to the HT forum, we have interacted before.

Sir T, your knowledge is invaluable and I always read your posts on topics and products I'm interested in but it might be time for an intervention with regard to your dream-quashing lack of diplomacy. I'm sure many here (and I don't mean Pix, he's in a category unto himself) can share stories of how you hurt them and quashed their dreams of owning the best tv, blu-ray player, etc. or their dreams of even understanding what the hell we're talking about here. But I've never participated in an intervention or watched one on tv so I don't know how to get it started.

Maybe you should not start at all. Telling somebody the truth is not a slamming, it is just plain telling the truth. Candy coating is not going to make the truth easier to swallow, or magically make it easier to understand. If the truth squashes your dreams of owning the best(rather than making it easier to distinguish what is best), then your feelings are more important than good information.

I have learned to accept everyone's way of delivering information, even Pixes. With that said, others will just have to accept my way of delivering information, or you don't have to read it. I have never asked anyone to change the way they deliver valid and accurate information(except Pix, because his information is neither), so I expect no one to ask me to change mine. I have been on this site since 1996, and I have not been any different than as I am now. In the great words of song writers Kenny Gamble and Leon Huff, "If you don't know me by now, you will never never know me". Dean, you should know me by now.


I leave diplomacy for politicians, it has very little value on A/V forums where folks usually say just about anything, rather than sticking to the facts.

[dean_martin]

Dean, Nasir is not new to the HT forum, we have interacted before.



Maybe you should not start at all. Telling somebody the truth is not a slamming, it is just plain telling the truth. Candy coating is not going to make the truth easier to swallow, or magically make it easier to understand. If the truth squashes your dreams of owning the best(rather than making it easier to distinguish what is best), then your feelings are more important than good information.

I have learned to accept everyone's way of delivering information, even Pixes. With that said, others will just have to accept my way of delivering information, or you don't have to read it. I have never asked anyone to change the way they deliver valid and accurate information(except Pix, because his information is neither), so I expect no one to ask me to change mine. I have been on this site since 1996, and I have not been any different than as I am now. In the great words of song writers Kenny Gamble and Leon Huff, "If you don't know me by now, you will never never know me". Dean, you should know me by now.


I leave diplomacy for politicians, it has very little value on A/V forums where folks usually say just about anything, rather than sticking to the facts.

Touche'. Carry on, Sir. My imagination got the best of me. I could see the enthusiasm for the Philips tv suddenly turn into gut-wrenching dispair.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Touche'. Carry on, Sir. My imagination got the best of me. I could see the enthusiasm for the Philips tv suddenly turn into gut-wrenching dispair.

LOL

I didn't want to ruin his impression of the set, just give a little reality to dispel their marketing hype(perfect motion???).

[pixelthis]

Touche'. Carry on, Sir. My imagination got the best of me. I could see the enthusiasm for the Philips tv suddenly turn into gut-wrenching dispair.

If you let this troll get into your head you deserve what you get.
I have heard nothing but good things about PHILLIPS, its certainly not the best thats out there,
but it is a fine TV. Dont let an ill tempered old troll get to you.

[pixelthis]

I wonder if Sir T is referring to the Portuguese market as the relatively new poster he slammed is from Portugal.

Sir T, your knowledge is invaluable and I always read your posts on topics and products I'm interested in but it might be time for an intervention with regard to your dream-quashing lack of diplomacy. I'm sure many here (and I don't mean Pix, he's in a category unto himself) can share stories of how you hurt them and quashed their dreams of owning the best tv, blu-ray player, etc. or their dreams of even understanding what the hell we're talking about here. But I've never participated in an intervention or watched one on tv so I don't know how to get it started.

BTW, thanks again Smoke. That 40" Samsung for $697 looks like a good replacement for the pos crt in my bedroom.

YOU SEE...this is the problem.
Everytime this blowhard posts another of his idiotic posts with a bunch of thrown
together "facts" googled from the net, you just have to say how "valuable"
his posts are, when in fact he didnt post anythingf of real knowledge that can be proved at all.
ARE Sharp and LG panels "second rate"? HAS THIS BEEN PROVED?
Of course not, and it can't, its just this sad delusional ill tempered old fart taking
out his frustrations about life on the rest of us.
AND OF COURSE you have to say how "valuable" his nonsense gobldegook crap
is.
HAVE YOU EVER HEARD about not encouraging such anti-social bad behavior?
HOW ABOUT calling him on his "facts". How about asking him where he got such "facts"
from?
HE USED TO SLAM VIZIO, one of the most popular brands in the country , just because I OWNED ONE...and now that I own one of the better brands , he starts slamming that
one, if I BOUGHT one of his POS KUROS, he would slam that one.
WHICH IS WHY I no longer respond to any of his idiotic posts full of made up garbage,
why encourage bad behavior? THATS WHAT HE WANTS.

[Smokey]

HE USED TO SLAM VIZIO, one of the most popular brands in the country , just because I OWNED ONE...and now that I own one of the better brands , he starts slamming that.

Heheheh.... I see Sir TT getting to you

If you enjoy your TV, that is all that matters.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Heheheh.... I see Sir TT getting to you

If you enjoy your TV, that is all that matters.

Kind of arrogant and self centered to think it was all about him. The problem is that he is too cheap to pay for televisions that perform better. Don't hate me because your reach is so low. It just so happens that pix has owned a third tier set, and now a second tier set.

At least he is improving, which isn't saying much..........

[Jack in Wilmington]

Kind of arrogant and self centered to think it was all about him. The problem is that he is too cheap to pay for televisions that perform better. Don't hate me because your reach is so low. It just so happens that pix has owned a third tier set, and now a second tier set.

At least he is improving, which isn't saying much..........

TT, he may have a bigger problem than being to cheap. He may actually think the LG looks better than the Samsungs and Sonys and that what really bothers him. I'm all for "Buy What You Can Afford", but then don't go around and tell people that it's the best on the market. There are worse things in this world than looking cheap, looking stupid is one of them.

[pixelthis]

TT, he may have a bigger problem than being to cheap. He may actually think the LG looks better than the Samsungs and Sonys and that what really bothers him. I'm all for "Buy What You Can Afford", but then don't go around and tell people that it's the best on the market. There are worse things in this world than looking cheap, looking stupid is one of them.

"buy what you can afford" eh? I could have bought a Samsung, a Sony, you name it.
Get off of your high horse. I had a 42" 1080p set that, despite TALKYS PROTESTATIONS TO THE CONTRARY was actually a very nice set. Not the best but great for the price.
I still have a 60hz 1080p, the only reason, and I REPEAT ...the only reason I bought
the LG was as an interim set, I REALLY THINK ITS AN EXCELLENT PICTURE.
There is no "third", "second", or even "first" type of TV, thats just talky the troll making stuff up.
Try to tell anybody in the industry that LG is "second tier" and they will laugh at you.
Different brands of TV handle pictures in different ways. The LG is very good in the way it handles color. TALKY slams it because of his insecurities, hes' had his "Kuro"
for awhile, its starting to dim a bit, and he knows he paid top dollar for second rate
plasma crap. Bugs him, I guess.
What a very sad and unhappy man, which is easy to tell by reading his posts.
At first they come off as arrogant, but after awhile you see the bitterness in them.
Sad, really.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

"buy what you can afford" eh? I could have bought a Samsung, a Sony, you name it.
Get off of your high horse. I had a 42" 1080p set that, despite TALKYS PROTESTATIONS TO THE CONTRARY was actually a very nice set. Not the best but great for the price.
I still have a 60hz 1080p, the only reason, and I REPEAT ...the only reason I bought
the LG was as an interim set, I REALLY THINK ITS AN EXCELLENT PICTURE.
There is no "third", "second", or even "first" type of TV, thats just talky the troll making stuff up.

Pix, you are the only idiot that makes his equipment an extension of himself. I think it has an excellent picture is meaningless if you don't calibrate your set, and you have admitted yourself that you don't.

Secondly, Pix there has been tiered manufacturing of televisions for years, and your denial is not going to change that one bit. Both Wooch and I have posted link after link that supports that fact.

Try to tell anybody in the industry that LG is "second tier" and they will laugh at you.
Different brands of TV handle pictures in different ways. The LG is very good in the way it handles color.

Everyone knows that LG is a second tier manufacturer, you know as well, but you are in the deepest part of denial a person can be(almost close to drowning in it as a matter of fact).

TALKY slams it because of his insecurities, hes' had his "Kuro"
for awhile, its starting to dim a bit, and he knows he paid top dollar for second rate
plasma crap. Bugs him, I guess.

My insecurities, over your cheapness? I think not. It would be stupid(and typical of you) to come up with that lame excuse. Vizio is what it is, a third tier television supplier(that don't manufacturer anything). LG is a respectable second tier manufacturer(they do make their own sets).

I actually got my Kuro's at a substantial discount from Best Buy, so your top dollar claim is bogus. The Kuros has never been a second rate plasma, it was, and still is the plasma panel that all others are compared to. It's performance(even after being off the market for two years now) has only been bested by Panasonic 65" professional plasma(of which I also own). No other plasma has yet touched it for performance - especially in contrast, color, and black levels. So much for your uniformed(and ignorant)claims.

What a very sad and unhappy man, which is easy to tell by reading his posts.
At first they come off as arrogant, but after awhile you see the bitterness in them.
Sad, really.

Pix, you need a mirror. I think this is what everyone else thinks about you, except substitute the word arrogant, for damn right pitiful, and it has you pegged.