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    SO much misinfo on this thread from the clueless, so little time.
    The set I was looking at uses leds as a light source, replacing the toxic mercury bulb.
    The reviewer said the pic was a little dim.
    AND I am not an LCD "fanboy" just in touch with reality.
    AND you really are clueless about amps rich in your own mind, be surprized if your beemers last that long.
    Most likely you only need a few watts to get loud output from your speakers, so why do ya need a powerfull amp? For transient loud passages, if your amp cant drive your speakers properly they will go into clipping, which is actually worse than overpowering
    them.
    You need a decent amp with a decent power supply, or eventually you'll have a bunch
    of very expensive english built paperweights.
    Yamahas are actually a good match for beemers, they have a halfway decent damping factor, something a lot of receivers lack, but yours is actually a bit puny.
    In other words your system is like your teevee, looks good but no real guts inside'
    OR as REAL Texans say "big hat no cattle".
    Check out outlaw audio, never tried their stuff but its cheap and well reviewed, and the amps have real guts.
    And if you dont know what a "pre-pro" (preamp procerssor) is you are truly headed for grief son
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    SO much misinfo on this thread from the clueless, so little time...

    ...For transient loud passages, if your amp cant drive your speakers properly they will go into clipping, which is actually worse than overpowering
    them...
    Speakers don't clip, amplifiers do. "SO much misinfo..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    SO much misinfo on this thread from the clueless, so little time.
    The set I was looking at uses leds as a light source, replacing the toxic mercury bulb.
    The reviewer said the pic was a little dim.
    AND I am not an LCD "fanboy" just in touch with reality.
    AND you really are clueless about amps rich in your own mind, be surprized if your beemers last that long.
    Most likely you only need a few watts to get loud output from your speakers, so why do ya need a powerfull amp? For transient loud passages, if your amp cant drive your speakers properly they will go into clipping, which is actually worse than overpowering
    them.
    You need a decent amp with a decent power supply, or eventually you'll have a bunch
    of very expensive english built paperweights.
    Yamahas are actually a good match for beemers, they have a halfway decent damping factor, something a lot of receivers lack, but yours is actually a bit puny.
    In other words your system is like your teevee, looks good but no real guts inside'
    OR as REAL Texans say "big hat no cattle".
    Check out outlaw audio, never tried their stuff but its cheap and well reviewed, and the amps have real guts.
    And if you dont know what a "pre-pro" (preamp procerssor) is you are truly headed for grief son

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    SO much misinfo on this thread from the clueless, so little time.
    The set I was looking at uses leds as a light source, replacing the toxic mercury bulb.
    The reviewer said the pic was a little dim.
    AND I am not an LCD "fanboy" just in touch with reality.
    AND you really are clueless about amps rich in your own mind, be surprized if your beemers last that long.
    Most likely you only need a few watts to get loud output from your speakers, so why do ya need a powerfull amp? For transient loud passages, if your amp cant drive your speakers properly they will go into clipping, which is actually worse than overpowering
    them.
    You need a decent amp with a decent power supply, or eventually you'll have a bunch
    of very expensive english built paperweights.
    Yamahas are actually a good match for beemers, they have a halfway decent damping factor, something a lot of receivers lack, but yours is actually a bit puny.
    In other words your system is like your teevee, looks good but no real guts inside'
    OR as REAL Texans say "big hat no cattle".
    Check out outlaw audio, never tried their stuff but its cheap and well reviewed, and the amps have real guts.
    And if you dont know what a "pre-pro" (preamp procerssor) is you are truly headed for grief son
    Try not to skip your meds.
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    ****walks into room and is almost hit with a flying pie****

    ****Closes door so the food fight can continue****

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    (door opens & GM slips out)
    (yelling and crashing can be heard while the door is open)
    (glimpses of food flying by can be seen and GM gets hit in the back on the way out)

    Hey LJ,
    Let's go get a few beers in us.
    So, how's the family doing?.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    (door opens & GM slips out)
    (yelling and crashing can be heard while the door is open)
    (glimpses of food flying by can be seen and GM gets hit in the back on the way out)

    Hey LJ,
    Let's go get a few beers in us.
    So, how's the family doing?.........
    Beer.................I'm always down for some sippin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Meanie
    Speakers don't clip, amplifiers do. "SO much misinfo..."

    Jeff
    I know that ya big silly, but I'm talkin to someone who doesnt know what a pre-pro is,
    and when referring to clipping its common to say you're driving your speakers into clipping,
    just an expression, really.
    NOT that it matters, the hamster in rich until will probably die before any signifigant damage can occure.
    And this guy is listening to ROCK on these speakers! Like takin a lexus 4wheelin.
    HEY rich for now ever hear of cerwin vega's? Sounds like just the thing fer ya, next time your at your girlfriends trailer ask if she knows anybody with some
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    But I guess it could be worse, you could be listening to randy travesty
    or conway twitty-twister
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    (GM walks in at 2 AM to see what the noise is about. The room is trashed. Pixman is there by himself. He is throwing pies at the ceiling and then standing under them when they fall. GM slowly backs out of the room and quietly closes the door.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    I know that ya big silly, but I'm talkin to someone who doesnt know what a pre-pro is,
    and when referring to clipping its common to say you're driving your speakers into clipping,
    just an expression, really.
    NOT that it matters, the hamster in rich until will probably die before any signifigant damage can occure.
    And this guy is listening to ROCK on these speakers! Like takin a lexus 4wheelin.
    HEY rich for now ever hear of cerwin vega's? Sounds like just the thing fer ya, next time your at your girlfriends trailer ask if she knows anybody with some
    Geez, the more you get called on the blatant bad info you excrete, the bigger the pile grows...
    Great strategy though, when you can't fool them with BS, change speeds and start insulting them personally...good job!

    You, don't by chance, have a gross mistrust for all women, do ya?

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    Dammit Kex! I was preparing a really long lesson in psychology for pixelate and you beat me to the punch!

    Since he flies by night, I'm going to work him over later anyway...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
    Dammit Kex! I was preparing a really long lesson in psychology for pixelate and you beat me to the punch!

    Since he flies by night, I'm going to work him over later anyway...
    I wouldn't bother .

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    Quote Originally Posted by kexodusc
    Geez, the more you get called on the blatant bad info you excrete, the bigger the pile grows...
    Great strategy though, when you can't fool them with BS, change speeds and start insulting them personally...good job!

    You, don't by chance, have a gross mistrust for all women, do ya?
    THANKS
    AND thanks for proving that you dont know what you're talking about by not knowing what I'm talking about.
    And ol rich-till-next week is gonna psychoanalyze ME! Thats like a redneck trying to be a music critic.
    And where do you get the inference that I dont trust women?
    BTY you must be pretty young, anybody with years on em knows you cant trust women anymore than anybody else, wait till the hormone haze fades a little(or your third wife leaves ya after sockin away money for a year, not paying any of the bills in YOUR name in the process)
    Technical geek types always have a rather naive view of women, anyway, and you do seem to know at least a little about tech stuff, musta read the owners manuel for your bose clock radio
    AS for ol GM, looks like ya have a little creepin rust in the old brainpan, son.
    You have a picture of a toy truck for an icon, how old are ya, twelve?
    From the way you keep on babblin about pie you must need a truck to get around in
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    You have a picture of a toy truck for an icon, how old are ya, twelve?
    Come on Pix, GM's avatar is one of the coolest here...and it matches his personality to a tee.

    GM, I say that with the utmost respect (I think).
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    This thread has not only lost its ability to educate but has also lost its ability to entertain.
    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    Yeah, you can get a DLP with leds for a mere four grand...
    I've proven Pix that you can buy an LED DLP TV for less than $2K which makes your statement incorrect. When you're willing to admit that you were wrong by posting words that state that fact here in this thread, you will regain my respect for you. If you can't do that then I'm afraid I no longer have any interest in what you have to say and that I'd like you to exit my thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvin Da Blues
    Come on Pix, GM's avatar is one of the coolest here...and it matches his personality to a tee.

    GM, I say that with the utmost respect (I think).
    Thanks. I picked it because he's simple and goofy, like me. Just having some fun.

    Pix, you are a funny guy. I just may have socks older than you. But I refuse to grow up. Life is too short to be an adult. Now, pass the remote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    ...edit...
    Why is it important to get your CC even with your screen?
    ...edit..
    Many people with front projection put the CC behind the screen, they do this because movie voices are usually routed to the center channel, so it supposedly heightens realism. You'd mount the CC at the same heigth and centered just above/below your projection TV for the same reason.

    All this, so it sounds like the voices are coming from the actors on the screen . Reflections??? Geez.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvin Da Blues
    Come on Pix, GM's avatar is one of the coolest here...and it matches his personality to a tee.
    I consider that a challenge!
    Quote Originally Posted by LDB
    GM, I say that with the utmost respect (I think).



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    Quote Originally Posted by kexodusc
    I wouldn't bother .
    Just READING some of his (pixelthis) posts makes my head hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kexodusc
    I wouldn't bother .
    Just READING some of his (pixelthis) posts makes my head hurt.

    Jeff
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    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Meanie
    Just READING some of his (pixelthis) posts makes my head hurt.

    Jeff
    So much so that you doublepost
    And rich I never said that you couldnt get a led dlp for less than 4 grand, just that the one I saw was 4 grand, still doesnt matter, still a dinosaur whose own extinction hasnt quite gotten to its brain yet.
    As for YOUR THREAD, it was shakespear (or speilburg, or alfred e newman, whatever)
    who said that once its out there it aint yours anymore.
    AND Gm you have fifty year old socks?
    My socks are like my girlfriends, I throw em out when they get twenty years old.
    And yes GM DOES HAVE A AVATAR that matches him well, and like him its thrown
    a rod, poor chap.
    But back to maters home theatery, this is a thread about basics after all,
    and some gentleman (one of the few around) posted something about your center being
    even with your screen.
    WELL hate to bust your bubble but while that is preferrable the human ear just isnt that precise, sorry, beisides your voices wont line up with your CC anyway
    Speaker placement is something audio crazies do between the time they've just bought
    new stuff and cant afford new stuff yet, really all you need is to point the speakers in your general direction and enjoy, must be a really crappy movie you're watching if you can be distracted enough to notice where the sounds coming from.
    Stereo audio is far more important, because that sets the soundstage.
    When watching the latest blockbuster its not important WHERE the helicopters go when they fly over your head just that they do fly over your head
    The minutae that audio and HT purists concern themselves with always amazes me,
    Is it just me or does it seem just a little obsessive compulsive to nudge a center speaker
    a little this way or a little that way, until its just right?
    Who are you anyway, goldilocks? (well, maybe rich)
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    So much so that you doublepost
    Precisely!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    My socks are like my girlfriends, I throw em out when they get twenty years old.
    And I'll bet it REALLY bums you out when they reach puberty.

    Jeff
    P.S. Just kidding!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
    I consider that a challenge!



    He said, "one of the coolest." Not the coolest. No challenge is needed. But you could spice yours up a little.

    Pix, I would have never pegged you for 50. I was thinking 15.
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