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    Okay, I used pure stereo mode briefly and the rear channels don't work either. So in this mode just the fronts have sound.
    Perhapssome people aren't grasping the benefits of multi-channel stereo. Forget the multi-channel concept. What I'm advocating is multiple speakers strategicly placed playing 2 channel stereo. When speakers are places to the side as well as front what you basically have is a very wide left and right beam. This gives a 180 degree soundstage, not traditional as already pointed out.The result is an almost concert like experience. Whereas using just 2 speakers is un-mistakenly a stereo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wireworm5
    The result is an almost concert like experience. Whereas using just 2 speakers is un-mistakenly a stereo.
    I have never been to a concert where the speakers were not on the stage (or hanging above) and in front of me. I also would not want my stereo to sound like most of the concerts I have been too. What venues have you been to that have surround or rear speakers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyfi
    I have never been to a concert where the speakers were not on the stage (or hanging above) and in front of me. I also would not want my stereo to sound like most of the concerts I have been too. What venues have you been to that have surround or rear speakers?
    Have you been to Madison Square Garden, or Nassau Coliseum? Or Saratoga Performing Arts, or almost any concert hall or garden? I have yet to ever go to a concert that did not have additional speakers around the room or field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    Have you been to Madison Square Garden, or Nassau Coliseum? Or Saratoga Performing Arts, or almost any concert hall or garden? I have yet to ever go to a concert that did not have additional speakers around the room or field.
    Is this really the type of sound you want in your home?

    There's a difference between mult-speaker sound reinforcement to fill a venue (ususally with time delays) with sound and a multi-channel recording.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markw
    Is this really the type of sound you want in your home?

    There's a difference between mult-speaker sound reinforcement to fill a venue (ususally with time delays) with sound and a multi-channel recording.
    Not necessarily. But the idea that all real music comes from only the front just doesn't ring true for me. People can prefer it. But it's no more real than surround. The way it was recorded is what's real. If it was recorded in 2 channel then 2 it is. If it was recorded in 5.1 then that's the way I like it.
    I've tried the DSP's and don't really like them much. 7 channel stereo is OK if I need more volume (when I'm not in the room) but I do have the center cut to 0%. I don't like the center for stereo.
    In the long run, I like pure direct the most for 2 channel. But this is in no way to be confused with how you would hear music at a real concert. More like how you would hear it at a recording studio.
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    I've only had one "live" multi-channel musical experience in my 57 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    Not necessarily. But the idea that all real music comes from only the front just doesn't ring true for me. People can prefer it. But it's no more real than surround. The way it was recorded is what's real. If it was recorded in 2 channel then 2 it is. If it was recorded in 5.1 then that's the way I like it.
    I've tried the DSP's and don't really like them much. 7 channel stereo is OK if I need more volume (when I'm not in the room) but I do have the center cut to 0%. I don't like the center for stereo.
    In the long run, I like pure direct the most for 2 channel. But this is in no way to be confused with how you would hear music at a real concert. More like how you would hear it at a recording studio.
    It was when we saw Paul Winter's Winter Solstice program at the Cathedral of St. John the Divine around 1998 - 99 or so. For those who have never been there, it's a giant, dark, gothic monstrosity and the performance venue consists of a long, dark hall, and I fully expected to see and/or feel bats flying around overhead.

    IThey had the stage set up towards the back of the long hall. In the beginning, Paul pealed off a few notes on thhis trumpet. From the balcony behind us, way up by the roof, they had more trumpets answering this call. Later in the concert, they had Mickey Hart, and many others, banging on drums and other percussion insturments being pulled on a cart from the rear of the hall (behind us ) up to the stage.

    ...and that's about the only time I've ever heard anythong except room ambiance from anywhere else except in front of me.

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