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    Cool

    NEW sony Blu ray.
    NEW Integra receiver 6.9
    NEW Emotiva two channel amp.
    The Emotiva would have to be the best of the best, anybody with a receiver
    needs at least the front two channels run through a power amp.
    Not only does it improve your stereo immensly, but the load it takes off of your receiver
    really helps the other channels.
    LG 42", integra 6.9, B&W 602s2, CC6 center, dm305rears, b&w
    sub asw2500
    Panny DVDA player
    sharp Aquos BLU player
    pronto remote, technics antique direct drive TT
    Samsung SACD/DVDA player
    emotiva upa-2 two channel amp

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    My additions:

    I got some great deals on A-gon and eBay this year. Ironically I spent a bit more on my HT setup than my 2-channel systems (may not be a good sign, lol):

    McCormack MAP1:


    Oppo BDP-83 & BDP-83se NE:


    Magnepan MG-12, MC-1, MMGW, and MMGC
    Kimber PBJ Audio Cables

    Bluetrain, it's not often we see anything French around here. How do you like the Atoll gear? I was considering the Atoll CD-100 to replace an aging Audio Refinement player. Any thoughts on the matching CD player?

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    2009 was a pretty good year for video purchases for me.

    1. a 65" Sony professional Cell processor based LED backlit LCD television with a native resolution of 4096×2160 pixels. It has the ability to convert 2D images to 3D on the fly using Real3D technology. It has 2000 individual local dimming zones each with a RGB LED cluster (called Triluminos) for richer colors, and a unmeasurable black level. It can display 18 different mini screens at SD resolution. or 4 full 1080p streams simultaneously. It can also upconvert 1080p to 4k in real time. It is only one of two televisions in the world that can deliver a full 1080p or 2160p content in full resolution with moving images. You are not going to find this at any consumer store, as these televisions are marketed to post production studios only (the price keeps it that way).

    2. For my mixing/screening room, I have a brand new Sony 3D capable 4K projector.

    3. Two Oppo players, both stock. I see no need for upgrade as I use HDMI for everything.

    4. I purchased a PS3 slim for each of my 7 hometheaters spread out over 5 properties. This thing can be so tricked out, that a broadcast antenna or cable is unnecessary because of a small investment in a piece of software called playon.

    5. I upgraded all of the video and audio cards on my HD switcher/ processor.

    This year will the year for audio upgrades, as I have gotten myself all caught up(and a little ahead) on the video side.
    Sir Terrence

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    200" SI Black Diamond II screen
    Oppo BDP-103D
    Datastat RS20I audio/video processor 12.4 audio setup
    9 Onkyo M-5099 power amp
    9 Onkyo M-510 power amp
    9 Onkyo M-508 power amp
    6 custom CAL amps for subs
    3 custom 3 way horn DSP hybrid monitors
    18 custom 3 way horn DSP hybrid surround/ceiling speakers
    2 custom 15" sealed FFEC servo subs
    4 custom 15" H-PAS FFEC servo subs
    THX Style Baffle wall

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    This has been a quiet year for me. I only added a Sony 46" for the basement HT and the PS3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible

    1. a 65" Sony professional Cell processor based LED backlit LCD television with a native resolution of 4096×2160 pixels. It has the ability to convert 2D images to 3D on the fly using Real3D technology. It has 2000 individual local dimming zones each with a RGB LED cluster (called Triluminos) for richer colors, and a unmeasurable black level. It can display 18 different mini screens at SD resolution. or 4 full 1080p streams simultaneously. It can also upconvert 1080p to 4k in real time. It is only one of two televisions in the world that can deliver a full 1080p or 2160p content in full resolution with moving images. You are not going to find this at any consumer store, as these televisions are marketed to post production studios only (the price keeps it that way).
    Eventually it is going to just be easier to go outside and play, isn't it?

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    This year was a banner year at the old Bender house......

    Almost everything is new this year. But the thing I like the most, that is mine, has to be the Rega P3/24 w/ the Sumiko Evo III. Maybe I should include the Moon LP3 in there as well, seeing as it is part of the package. But I really hate the chassis on this thing. Every time I've opened it up, closing it again is a real pain in the ass to get the screws aligned. nothing like good on Canadian manufacturing....hehe.. Though I can't say much better about the manufacturing of the Rega. The tone arm elevator didn't work, the plug for the power doesn't go in straight, or all the way, and I think it spins just a hair faster than it should.

    Anyways, that is by far the best for me in 2009. And the best LP I picked up has to be Ratatat LP3. Amazing electronic, great engineering and production. It is my show off vinyl.

    The other gear I'm really enjoying, the Granite Audio #560 power cords. Plug these into anything and it is whole near gear. Fanfreakingtastic. Also really liking the Audio Note DAC One, it is really detailed, but still sounds like a CD.

    The Jeff Rowland is pretty awesome as well. Look for an upcoming review on Dagogo.com for that. But it is easily over excited with the right source and pre-amp. So finding a smooth source is key, and a good power cable.

    I hope 2010 has a lot more to go. Not part of the thread, but I'm going to take my GMAT test on July 31st, I've started a new job while continuing to do side work for AudioREVIEW, and I'm getting in more gear for review, which is always great.

    Enjoy all your gear and your loved ones. Life can be short, or long, but make it wonderful if you can. (I need to spot listening to hippie music, who wants to send me some new death metal CDs?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicAdam
    This year was a banner year at the old Bender house......
    Over here too..."I got a carton of smokes...Smoke up Johnny!"...


    So, I broke into the palace
    With a sponge and a rusty spanner
    She said : "Eh, I know you, and you cannot sing"
    I said : "That's nothing - you should hear me play piano"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    1. a 65" Sony professional Cell processor based LED backlit LCD television with a native resolution of 4096×2160 pixels. It has the ability to convert 2D images to 3D on the fly using Real3D technology....
    So when will you be adding IMAX capability? While the audio found at IMAX theatres is mediocre (if not loud), the video quality is on a completely different plane! I've seen Avatar twice so far and find it to showcase the potential of the medium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E-Stat
    So when will you be adding IMAX capability? While the audio found at IMAX theatres is mediocre (if not loud), the video quality is on a completely different plane! I've seen Avatar twice so far and find it to showcase the potential of the medium.

    rw
    Wow E, I am surprised that you found IMAX's audio to be just mediocre. Are you sure it wasn't fake IMAX? Difference, the new IMAX uses a smaller screen, DLP projectors, and a sound system based on JBL;s cinema stuff. If is truly mediocre sounding to these ears. The real IMAX has the 8 story screen, the 14,000 watt worth of power, and two surrounds as opposed to the common array of speakers. It uses the basic 5.1 channel setup with a front height channel the fake IMAX does not have. I have found the real IMAX sound system to be head and shoulders above the typical theater sound system.

    IMAX is a 2011 upgrade
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    Datastat RS20I audio/video processor 12.4 audio setup
    9 Onkyo M-5099 power amp
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    9 Onkyo M-508 power amp
    6 custom CAL amps for subs
    3 custom 3 way horn DSP hybrid monitors
    18 custom 3 way horn DSP hybrid surround/ceiling speakers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    Wow E, I am surprised that you found IMAX's audio to be just mediocre
    We have different points of reference. None of the twenty or so IMAX theatres I've attended has sound even approaching the resolution of the best audio I've heard. Zero depth and no finesse. Loud horns that no one would ever mistake for the live unamplified event. Everything sounds electronic. What do you expect from the JBL drivers used by Sonics Associates?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    Are you sure it wasn't fake IMAX?
    Fake IMAX? What is that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    The real IMAX has the 8 story screen, the 14,000 watt worth of power, and two surrounds as opposed to the common array of speakers. It uses the basic 5.1 channel setup with a front height channel the fake IMAX does not have. I have found the real IMAX sound system to be head and shoulders above the typical theater sound system.
    Above the "typical theatre sound system". That isn't saying much since that sucks! In nearly twenty years of attending IMAX films (for which the video is incredible), the audio has never rendered the resolution or spatial characteristics I've heard in countless audio systems. As I indicated earlier, it is powerful and loud. Quantitative, not qualitative. It is all about the picture. Which is truly incredible as I've noted. Avatar is a work of art!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    IMAX is a 2011 upgrade
    Kewl, dude! The multi-projector Cinerama of the 60s I saw (Grand Prix, Sound of Music, etc) has never matched the video resolution of the huge lateral 70mm format. It is a pity the sound is not even in the same class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E-Stat
    We have different points of reference. None of the twenty or so IMAX theatres I've attended has sound even approaching the resolution of the best audio I've heard. Zero depth and no finesse. Loud horns that no one would ever mistake for the live unamplified event. Everything sounds electronic. What do you expect from the JBL drivers used by Sonics Associates?
    You are comparing apples and oranges here. The purpose of a theatrical sound system is not to sound as good as a home based audio system, but to cover many seats with good sound as possible. Some theatrical systems are better at this than others. Sonic Associates systems don't use JBL drivers, their whole sound system was totally proprietary down to the drivers. The fake IMAX uses a JBL based theatrical system.


    Fake IMAX? What is that?
    Fake IMAX= digital files at 2k resolution, a JBL based sound system, and smaller screen

    Real IMAX= 70mm film set on its side, 8 story screen, and the custom sound system built by Sonic Associates.


    Above the "typical theatre sound system". That isn't saying much since that sucks! In nearly twenty years of attending IMAX films (for which the video is incredible), the audio has never rendered the resolution or spatial characteristics I've heard in countless audio systems. As I indicated earlier, it is powerful and loud. Quantitative, not qualitative. It is all about the picture. Which is truly incredible as I've noted. Avatar is a work of art!
    Another apples and oranges comparison. A audio system (especially a two channel system) is design to deliver its best output to one seat in room sizes a lot smaller than a movie theater. A movie theater sound system does not have that luxury.

    The spatial characteristic you get from a home audio system is generated by reflections within the room. Home audio speakers can only acheive the spatial characteristics you describe by being located away from the walls. The more you push the speaker system towards the walls, the less spatial effect you will hear because you are turning a reflective pattern into a single event to the ears, as apposed to a multiple event with longer reflective paths to the ears. All depth from a two channel audio system comes from in front of you, and basically very little to none from the rear.

    Theaterical speaker systems are built into baffles which prevent any rearward reflection event from happening. Hence the lack of rear depth. Depth is gained by pulling the signals "into" the room via the surround speakers.

    Soundtracks, and music tracks are built totally different. Music is a event recorder, and soundtracks are made to match the the action on the screen. Music recordings are continual processes, and film soundtracks are sewn together from different events. Even if the quality of the systems were the same, you cannot compare a recording event to a manufactured recording. Audio is mixed one way, and film a completely different way.

    It is not realistic or even logical to compare a home audio system to a multichannel theatrical sound system. What each has to accomplish within their environment is of opposite polarity, and almost everything about the listening experience is polar opposite as well. This is not a credible comparison, and it is illogical to frame it this way. Theatrical sound systems should be compared against other theatrical systems. A JBL theatrical system versus a Klipsch theatrical system is more credible because you are comparing systems that do the same thing in the same environment.


    Kewl, dude! The multi-projector Cinerama of the 60s I saw (Grand Prix, Sound of Music, etc) has never matched the video resolution of the huge lateral 70mm format. It is a pity the sound is not even in the same class.

    rw
    If you really think that the audio on magnetic tape with a frequency response of 30-15khz, restricted dynamics in comparison to digital, complete with wow and flutter as the film goes through the projector, with a two way Altec based speaker system full of distortion is comparable to lossless digital sound with a frequency response of 20-20khz, no wow or flutter, coming through a 4 way custom speaker system with a fraction of the distortion is better sound, all I can say is nostalgia dominates your hearing capabilites more than reality.

    Todays sound systems are lower in distortion, wider in frequency response, and have more controlled coverage patterns that require less acoustical tweaking than those old 2 way systems. Todays horns sound less "horn like" than the old systems. The bass response of a typical screen speaker is much lower than the old system (40hz versus 80hz). Amplifiers are lower in distortion than those older amps, and clarity of the overall system is far ahead today than back then.
    Sir Terrence

    Titan Reference 3D 1080p projector
    200" SI Black Diamond II screen
    Oppo BDP-103D
    Datastat RS20I audio/video processor 12.4 audio setup
    9 Onkyo M-5099 power amp
    9 Onkyo M-510 power amp
    9 Onkyo M-508 power amp
    6 custom CAL amps for subs
    3 custom 3 way horn DSP hybrid monitors
    18 custom 3 way horn DSP hybrid surround/ceiling speakers
    2 custom 15" sealed FFEC servo subs
    4 custom 15" H-PAS FFEC servo subs
    THX Style Baffle wall

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    Bluetrain, it's not often we see anything French around here. How do you like the Atoll gear? I was considering the Atoll CD-100 to replace an aging Audio Refinement player. Any thoughts on the matching CD player?
    Hey, I really like my Atolls. Years back I had Audio Refinement Complete integrated, so I can say Atoll retains that smoothness and musicality, but adds great bass, more details and incomparably better dynamics. As for their CDPs - can't comment on them, never heard them, but everybody loves their sound.

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