Who uses ONLY Receiver with no amp/preamp? Is good sound possible?

[markw]

My level of volume is around 70 Db - 80 Db max for movies and music,

That level puts virtually no demand on the power amp at all. If this is the level at which you're complaining about distortion, then lack of power most certainly isn't your problem.

Likewise, neither are cables or interconnects, assuming you're using at least 16 gauge for the speakers.

As I said before, old school, big box, big driver, full range speakers on the floor can almost guarantee a muddy, inarticulate sound, particularly at higher volume levels.

[GMichael]

So nice to see everyone getting along again. Well, almost everyone.

Hey LJ & Speedy,

I was going to move you up to the boxed seats with surround sound but, if you like it where you are, who am I to complain. I'll just drink all this beer by myself.

[royphil345]

So nice to see everyone getting along again. Well, almost everyone.

Hey LJ & Speedy,

I was going to move you up to the boxed seats with surround sound but, if you like it where you are, who am I to complain. I'll just drink all this beer by myself.

A beer..... Oooooh ......you're cool................... punk...................

I'm tellin' your mom..... when I see her again...

[GMichael]

A beer..... Oooooh ......you're cool................... punk...................

I'm tellin' your mom..... when I see her again...

Now now...
Didn't your momy ever teach you to not call people names? You can have soda instead if you like. I won't tease you. Really.

Just having fun Roy. Please don't think I'm attacking you. I have read plenty of your posts in the past and have never seen you be mean to anyone before.

[Dusty Chalk]

So nice to see everyone getting along again. Well, almost everyone.

Hey LJ & Speedy,

I was going to move you up to the boxed seats with surround sound but, if you like it where you are, who am I to complain. I'll just drink all this beer by myself.

I can hear fine from the back.

Go get 'em you guys!

[royphil345]

That level puts virtually no demand on the power amp at all. If this is the level at which you're complaining about distortion, then lack of power most certainly isn't your problem.

Likewise, neither are cables or interconnects, assuming you're using at least 16 gauge for the speakers.

As I said before, old school, big box, big driver speakers on the floor can almost guarantee a muddy, inarticulate sound, particularly at higher volume levels.

I have a pair of JBLs that just absolutely sealed your idiot coffin.... Do you really expect anyone to believe you know what you're talking about???... LOL What an idiot... Nicer than anything a goof like you will ever own...

[markw]

I guess your true class and (in)breeding is just coming out. Oh well, you asked for it.

I have a pair of JBLs that just absolutely sealed your idiot coffin.... Do you really expect anyone to believe you know what you're talking about???... LOL What an idiot... Nicer than anything a goof like you will ever own...

Now, now, child. let's take a step back and analyze exactly what I said.

As I said before, old school, big box, big driver speakers on the floor can almost guarantee a muddy, inarticulate sound, particularly at higher volume levels.

Exactly what part of "can almost guarantee" don't you understand? That means "not every single one". That's called a qualifier and when you take some reading courses you might understand this. But, I guess they don't teach this in junior high english anymore.

Now, if you are saying that his speakers are on the same level as yours then you might have a shot at looking intelligent. Otherwise, you've just (again) shown your proclivity to start calling names, spewing insults like you do your jizm on the bathroom floor, and jumping to absurd conclusions when people have the sheer audacity to disagree with you rather than discuss things like adults. All that really shows is your inability to come up with a reasoned response.

Likewise, from your other posts here you seem to guarantee the OP that by simply plugging those speakers into a more powerful power amp all his problems will magically disappear. Is that your final answer?

So, what JBL's are you so proud of? Are they as good as his Cerwin-Vega!'s?

[royphil345]

Exactly what part of "can almost guarantee" don't you understand? That means "not every single one". That's called a qualifier and when you take some reading courses you might understand this. But, I guess they don't teach this in junior high english anymore.


Likewise, from your other posts here you seem to guarantee the OP that by simply plugging those speakers into a more powerful power amp all his problems will magically disappear. Is that your final answer?

Look butthead...

So what you're saying is that your "qualifier" made what you posted absolutely meaningless. I absolutely agree. Exactly like most of your other posts. But you keep spewing rubbish anyway, just for the sake of spewing rubbish, possibly believing that someone is actually buying it and thinks you're not a dumba$$. If not, there's a "qualifier".


Will a better amp make all his problems disappear?... Only the one he complained about in this post, dumba$$!!! What were you saying about them not teaching English anymore??? READ THE POST DUMBASS!!! Sorry if I offered helpful advice when you couldn't. Sorry you're so insecure that you feel it's worth starting a war over, you goofball.

Did you find out why he thinks he's losing steam at 80db yet???... LOL... You had all the answers though... .

Enough of this crap... I need to get some work done today...

Your last post is just a joke... shows you understand nothing. Of course frequency is frequency, voltage is voltage, current is current... no matter what it's being used to do... Electricity is electricity. It moves through conductors towards the ground, that's all it does. It does it at different strengths (voltage), it does it at different speeds (current), it can be made to come in spurts (frequency). And yet you actually call me names because you can't understand these most basic facts???

[markw]

Look butthead...

So what you're saying is that your "qualifier" made what you posted absolutely meaningless. I absolutely agree. Exactly like most of your other posts. But you keep spewing rubbish anyway, just for the sake of spewing rubbish, possibly believing that someone is actually buying it and thinks you're not a dumba$$. If not, there's a "qualifier".


Will a better amp make all his problems disappear?... Only the one he complained about in this post, dumba$$!!! What were you saying about them not teaching English anymore??? READ THE POST DUMBASS!!! Sorry if I offered helpful advice when you couldn't. Sorry you're so insecure that you feel it's worth starting a war over, you goofball.

Did you find out why he thinks he's losing steam at 80db yet???... LOL... You had all the answers though... .

Enough of this crap... I need to get some work done today...

Your last post is just a joke... shows you understand nothing. Of course frequency is frequency, voltage is voltage, current is current... no matter what it's being used to do... Electricity is electricity. It moves through conductors towards the ground, that's all it does. It does it at different strengths (voltage), it does it at different speeds (current), it can be made to come in spurts (frequency). And yet you actually call me names because you can't understand these most basic facts???

So, Whose starting a war over this? Not I. It seems you're the only one about to pop a vein in your head. Since you started with the name calling 'm just having fun at your expense now. Actually, you stated this with just about everyone who disagreed with you but it's only when you turned your penis in my direction that I gave you what you were asking for.

So, are your speakers as good as his? I note you still haven't named 'em so I guess you still haven't decided which ones to claim you own. Take your time. It doesn't really matter. At this point I doubt anyone would believe you anyway. What's that sucking sound? Oh, that's just your credibility going down the drain.

[royphil345]

So, Whose starting a war over this? Not I. It seems you're the only one about to pop a vein in your head. Since you started with the name calling 'm just having fun at your expense now. Actually, you stated this with just about everyone who disagreed with you but it's only when you turned your penis in my direction that I gave you what you were asking for.

So, are your speakers as good as his? I note you still haven't named 'em so I guess you still haven't decided which ones to claim you own. Take your time. It doesn't really matter. At this point I doubt anyone would believe you anyway. You've pretty much shot off both your feet in this thread. What's that sucking sound? Oh, that's just your credibility going down the drain.

Yeah, your family has been swimming in the shallow end of the gene pool all right.

YES, YES, YES!!!

I WIN!!!

YOUR LAST POST HAD NO CONTENT AT ALL!!! COMPLETE MELTDOWN!!!

NO ARGUMENTS LEFT...

I WIN!!!!!

punk...

[markw]

YES, YES, YES!!!

I WIN!!!

YOUR LAST POST HAD NO CONTENT AT ALL!!! COMPLETE MELTDOWN!!!

NO ARGUMENTS LEFT...

I WIN!!!!!

punk...

If it makes you happy to think this, then have fun.

You still haven't owed up to what speakers you're referring to. ...hee hee hee. ......liar .

What your feeble brain can't comprehend is that I've heard more than enough speakers of that class and calibre over the years to be confident in my general apprasial. Yes, there are a few that don't fit that generalization but that one certainlty does. Obviously, with your limited experience, you haven't had that opportunity and are basing your opinions on what you want to believe, not what is.

So, you see, by asking what your basis for your opinion was was a valid question for discussion. But, since you so conveniently sidestepped answering it when asked, I guess you lose by default.