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What should I do?
I need help on this but If I already have a Pioneer VSX-405 receiver is it the best to buy the JBL HLS610 for upgrade compaired to my HLS410 or should I keep my HLS410 and buy a new Onkyo TX-8222 receiver instead? I guess what I need to know is that will it sound better if I used my $150 to get the HLS610 speakers using my current Pioneer receiver or should I not buy the HLS610 and get the Onkyo TX-8222 receiver instead.
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I really like the HLS series from JBL so I want those and from what I hear the Onkyo TX-8222 receiver is the best for just normal music listening so I am trying to decide what should I do.
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check out the return policy and if you can, try out the onkyo, I think you will like it.
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So you recommend that I buy the Onkyo TX-8222 receiver and continue to use the HLS410 speakers rather than buying the HLS610 and keep the Pioneer reveiver I already have?
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I recommend you try it, and return it if you don't like it.
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No. See what the return policy is on the Onkyo. If you can return it, then give it a shot and if you like what you hear then keep it. If you don't hear any changes with the Onkyo then return it. Make your own decision based on what you hear.
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There is one problem both I have to get off the net the the HLS610 are sold on e-bay right now. I know I wont be able to buy them and ruturn them if I dont like them since they are sold by someone on e-bay. The Onkyo TX-8222 receiver is still new and still sold so I can get them online for good price but I just needed to know from you guys about what you think is best I should do.
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if you plan on getting the 610's into your system no matter what, and they are available at a lower cost now than you could ever imagine.. then yeah get them..
but if you are looking for the biggest sound improvement for the $150 now, I think the onkyo is better of the two as you already have similar speakers.
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If I had to choose on upgrading my speakers or amp, I would choose speakers every time. Speakers play the biggest part in the sound of your sound system. Thats not to say an amplifier isnt important, but if you have a half decent receiver then try new speakers first IMHO. At entry level audio I think money is best spent on your speakers. If the speakers you are looking at are a big improvement in sound then go for it. If not you might want to upgrade your receiver or possibly your CD player which is also an important part of your sound.
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Well which should I do since one of you guys say get the receiver and one says get the speakers but which is more recommended?
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I see that someone is selling a pair of the HLS610 that is almost new on Ebay. I am trying to decide if I should buy these and keep my Pioneer receiver VSX-405 or should I not buy these speakers and get the Onkyo receiver I was talking about. Which is a better deal do you guys think??
HLS610
http://cgi.ebay.com/JBL-HLS610-AUDIO...em300068794637
Lowest price on Onkyo receiver
http://www.abtelectronics.com/script...zrate&id=24551
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Do you want more bass? If not then get the Onkyo... since the only advantage you are likely to get from getting a step up in the JBL line is slightly more bass....
And what happened to the Sony speakers that you were planning to buy?
Anyway, for the record, I don't think you'll get a great improvement in sound with either the speakers or the Onkyo, you'd be better off saving the $150.... and waiting till you have a little more money and finding a really nice pair of speakers.... since you already have a working system.... no point wasting money on barely noticeable upgrades....
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Have you listened to the speakers that you want to buy? If so, do they sound better than the ones you currently have? If so then get the speakers. Otherwise buy the onkyo receiver, take it home and if it doesnt make a big difference return it. But IMHO, I think upgrading speakers is the way to go. Changing speakers will change the sound of your music whether its for the better or the worse. An amplifier may or may not change the sound of your speakers. And with lower end speakers, I don't think the Onkyo will make that much of a difference. You may get deeper base with the onkyo but is that what you are looking for? Larger speakers will aslo do the same thing.
Hope this helps some but in this hobby there are many opinions because audio is so subjective.
I just looked at the specs of the 2 models of the JBL's and the 610's freq response dips down to 55Hz vs 75 for your current speaker. To me thats a huge difference. If your looking at speakers in this price range, you should check out the infinity primus 160's. They are very crisp and clean sounding and can be bought for about $75 each on sale.
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Mr. Bamboo Forest,
I wouldnt recommend JBL unless you are getting something very similar to this.
http://a1441.g.akamai.net/7/1441/584...35062983.pjpeg
I heard these with a pair of SET amps, and just couldnt believe what I was hearing.
Get these. http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NHTAZ
or
http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NHT2
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JBL makes very high end stuff over sea's that they don't sell here in the states.
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What happened to those awful sony speakers you were convinced you wanted to buy?
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Why not look at some good speakers and get away from the low end stuff like JBL?
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Originally Posted by N. Abstentia
Why not look at some good speakers and get away from the low end stuff like JBL?
I think he or she has his or her fingers in his or her ears.
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To Do:
1) Save more money (~$250-350 for the next level)
2) Visit some specialty audio stores
3) Listen to GOOD small bookshelf speakers
4) Keep your receiver
5) Wait a while and save money
6) Revisit specialty audio stores
7) Listen to GOOD small bookshelf speakers again
8) Keep your receiver
9) Don't do anything until you upgrade your speakers.
10) Come here and tell us what you listened to
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Man, ignore all these haters, SVI! Shat! What you really need is some Hot Air Speakers! Anything less would be a waste of time!
http://www.t3.co.uk/news/247/enterta...ur_breath_away
True proud fun boy playas only listen to the finest in inflatable speakers!
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Originally Posted by noddin0ff
To Do:
1) Save more money (~$250-350 for the next level)
2) Visit some specialty audio stores
3) Listen to GOOD small bookshelf speakers
4) Keep your receiver
5) Wait a while and save money
6) Revisit specialty audio stores
7) Listen to GOOD small bookshelf speakers again
8) Keep your receiver
9) Don't do anything until you upgrade your speakers.
10) Come here and tell use what you listened to
As much as I hate to take this back on track, seriously this is good advice. Please, please,please follow it.
Slumpy that quote in your sig is brilliant...
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Originally Posted by SlumpBuster
Ahh man I want to play with a set of those.
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Well actualy I need speakers now or the receiver and I have already decided what I want and it's eather the HLS610 or the Onkyo so I just need your help on which is the best to buy.
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I really liked the sound of the HLS series.
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I believe the answer was neither.
And you like the HLS? Out of curiosity what else have you listened to? With $150, if you just saved a little more, you could get MUCH better quality speakers.
Also, any chance you can shrink that giant picture in your sig?
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Have you ever heard of delayed gratification?
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Originally Posted by SpankingVanillaice
Well actualy I need speakers now or the receiver and I have already decided what I want and it's eather the HLS610 or the Onkyo so I just need your help on which is the best to buy.
NEED? Is there something wrong with your current speakers or receiver? Are they malfunctioning? If not, then you what you mean is that you WANT either new speakers or a receiver.... the advice given to you by noddinoff is the best.... be patient and listen to multiple speakers....
But since you seem intent on tossing around some cash.... then buy the Onkyo now to satisfy your craving to 'upgrade'.....
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Originally Posted by SpankingVanillaice
Well actualy I need speakers now or the receiver and I have already decided what I want and it's eather the HLS610 or the Onkyo so I just need your help on which is the best to buy.
You already have a receiver and speakers, so how can you possibly "need" more speakers or another receiver NOW?:confused5:
Jeff
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Ok this is the reason why I needed one of them and the reason is that right now my mom has been using my Pioneer receiver for 2 years so far and I only right now have the HLS410 and the HLS410's grills are not looking good as new but the sound is still like new. My mom did say that she can buy her own receiver but I dont know when. The HLS410 do work perfectly fine but just looks sorta like its old. So if I get a new receiver then I can use my HLS410 now but if I get the HLS610 then I can use my own amp and she will have to buy her own right now. What do you guys think is the best? Should I keep my HLS410 and get the Onkyo receiver or get the HLS610 and keep my receiver and my mom gets her own.
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I think you should do neither and follow the advice given to you.
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Mr. Bamboo Forest,
You dont neccesarily have to listen to everything you buy as long as you know what to look for.
If you like, we can spend your money and buy a pair of speakers for you.
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I'm gonna regret this...no I already do.
$150.00 will never, ever, never-ever, under any circumstances, beyond a shadow of a doubt never, qualitatively improve your sound. Take your money and put it in your pink piggie bank or under the mattress or in a shoe box,. Save your money until you have more and then can afford something that will be better than what you already have. In the the meantime work on the steps listed earlier.. Seriously.
And take it easy on your mom. She didn't abandon you at birth.
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Originally Posted by SpankingVanillaice
Ok this is the reason why I needed one of them and the reason is that right now my mom has been using my Pioneer receiver for 2 years so far and I only right now have the HLS410 and the HLS410's grills are not looking good as new but the sound is still like new. My mom did say that she can buy her own receiver but I dont know when. The HLS410 do work perfectly fine but just looks sorta like its old. So if I get a new receiver then I can use my HLS410 now but if I get the HLS610 then I can use my own amp and she will have to buy her own right now. What do you guys think is the best? Should I keep my HLS410 and get the Onkyo receiver or get the HLS610 and keep my receiver and my mom gets her own.
How about this? Since the grills look tired on your old speakers, why not just take off the grills and save your money?
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Originally Posted by SpankingVanillaice
Ok this is the reason why I needed one of them and the reason is that right now my mom has been using my Pioneer receiver for 2 years so far and I only right now have the HLS410 and the HLS410's grills are not looking good as new but the sound is still like new. .
I defy anyone to diagram the sentence above.
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Originally Posted by bobsticks
I defy anyone to diagram the sentence above.
http://www.mohammadi.ca/media/1/20050501-drawit.gif
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Well the problem is if I dont get my receiver back then I have no receiver right now. I am just using a computer speakers amp to power up my HLS410. I opened the back of the computer speakers and took the wires inside that were powering the little speakers to hook them up to my JBL's. So eather way I need to get something so I wanted to know if I should get a new Onkyo receiver or get my receiver back and get the HLS610 and my mom did say she can buy her own receiver. If I got the HLS610 then I would get more bass when I get my receiver back. But I guess I need to know which is the best to do for now. I can say using the computer speakers amp doesnt sound good at all that's for sure.
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Well I would say you're better off getting your receiver back from your mom (who bought it, you or her?) and then saving to buy some better speakers. If you step past $200 a pair you can get some pretty damn good speakers for your money if you want to buy new. Paradigm, Axiom, AV123.com, HTD (know nothing about them but I keep hearing about them), Athena and a number of other companies have offerings around $200 or a little higher.
On the other hand you should also consider buying used. You can get much better bang for your buck that way in most cases, and audiogon (or ebay even) are worth looking at if you are interested in buying used.
Now, I do realize I just wasted my breath but in case you read all that and really consider your options, I think you'll find people here are trying to suggest much better ways to spend your money if you spend any at all.
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