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I too am still waiting to hear from Mr. Walker just what $50,000 speaker compares to the AR-3a. I liked the 3a when I first heard it in 1967 (it was the first AR speaker I actually did like), but feel it's been eclipsed by countless others since. Still, this question remains unanswered...
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Originally Posted by emaidel
I too am still waiting to hear from Mr. Walker just what $50,000 speaker compares to the AR-3a. I liked the 3a when I first heard it in 1967 (it was the first AR speaker I actually did like), but feel it's been eclipsed by countless others since. Still, this question remains unanswered...
Music is learned , class plays a major role in what we listen to. The more affluent we are the more likely our parents played a role in the type of music we listen to.
Generally lower class people are exposed to music by their peers. On the other hand classical , jazz , broadway etc , parents generally play a role in exposing their children to those forms of music.
This is from another Melvin Walker thread.
Melvin has been too busy explaining how our socio-econonmic levels influence our music to answer your question. He has also been busy ending sentences in prepostitions. Something that normally does not happen in the upper levels of society.
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If younger generations in America is so sensitive they can't handle criticism than there is little hope for the future in America.
[QUOTE=melvin walker]
[QUOTE=melvin walker]I am a member of several forums , I must say the language , the personal attacks , the
personal analysis is something I have never seen so much of as on this forum.[QUOTE=melvin walker]
So which is it Mel? Younger generations can't handle critisism or you, a member of the older generation, that can't handle critisism?
Oh, and we are still waiting on the answer to speakers being twelve feet apart and the $50k speaker that was no better than the AR-3. Don't think that we haven't noticed that you refuse to justify those audio knowledge turds.
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Damn it!! I keep coming back to his threads for...
before I digress, I gotta read this "12 feet" everyone keeps talking about...
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Post 7 of this linked thread.
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Originally Posted by jrhymeammo
before I digress, I gotta read this "12 feet" everyone keeps talking about...
http://forums.audioreview.com/showth...hlight=12+feet
I believe this is where mel first removed his head from his rectum to utter his first words here. After which, he promptly reinserted it and will, on occasion, remove it temporarialy and grace us with more pearls of wisdom, all personal opinions, he mines from up there.
Also, please note that this is the ONLY piece of cocrete (so to speak) advice he's offered in his short but illustrious tenure here. Every other post has been his opinions bemoaning the days gone by.
The running joke here (aside from ol' mel himself) is trying to get him to tell us from where he pulls these nuggets, but I think I've stumbled on the answer. See the first sentence in this post.
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crappy recordings
Many of the recordings today are too loudly recorded leaving no room for the dynamics to increase without clipping. Im sure all have read and studied material on the loudness wars. It killed quality. But so many people complained that now and for the last few years as well there has been a slow regression to the belief that quality does have merit. And it boost sales. I personally try to find out about the recording studios Ideals and beleifs on the loudness vs. the quality issue before I even buy any of their material. Nothing is worse than clipped signals for sounding terrible and for killing your tweeters and other drivers. Why buy or build good equipment only to play source material with built in distortion? Any material produced or engineered by Allison Krauss you can bet is quality of the top nature, as well as any by Mark Knophler and there are many others but it has been an uphill battle to bring back the Purist sense of music recording. Any clip or distortion in the studio from the artist to a dat or analouge tape in the signal is a piece of the artist's material that is gone and cannot ever be recovered. Like buying the Mona Lisa and triming around the edges to make it fit a smaller frame. It just aint the whole picture anymore. What the artist wants you to see or hear has been comprimised and lost forever. Being a guitarist and somewhat of a drummer I record a lot and its really difficult to get good volume with out some clipping at times. So I understand some of the reasons for the problems. I take pleasure in the thought that its on the way back to quality instead of just volume at least for now.
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Originally Posted by markw
http://forums.audioreview.com/showth...hlight=12+feet
I believe this is where mel first removed his head from his rectum to utter his first words here. After which, he promptly reinserted it and will, on occasion, remove it temporarialy and grace us with more pearls of wisdom, all personal opinions, he mines from up there.
Also, please note that this is the ONLY piece of cocrete (so to speak) advice he's offered in his short but illustrious tenure here. Every other post has been his opinions bemoaning the days gone by.
The running joke here (aside from ol' mel himself) is trying to get him to tell us from where he pulls these nuggets, but I think I've stumbled on the answer. See the first sentence in this post.
I like this one better...
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Originally Posted by melvin
Information is power ! my information has come over 50 years of listening , buying and reading about audio equipment
I have personally discussed audio with, Avery Fisher . Saul Marantz ,and Rudy Bozak .
I have traveled to audio shows in Los Angeles where I visited the JBL factory in Culver City and talked to studio engineers who set up many of the audio systems for the motion picture industry. Several of the engineers I talked with set up audio systems for MGM
musicals. Two of the engineers worked with Fred Astaire at RKO.
I bought my first audio system in 1958 , Stephens speakers , pilot pre-amp and power amp, Lesa turntable , and a autogourse cartridge.
In the St.louis area as an audiophile Spent many hours at the more than a dozen audio shops now all closed but active from 1958 thru the 1980's.Talking with other audiophiles about audio.
I have seen hundreds of audio companies go out of business. Observed the introduction of stereo , transistors , receivers , digital , CD's etc.
I have read thousands of audio magazines and audio books. Dating back to the 1950's.
I have observed live vs recorded sound in St,Louis at Powell Symphony Hall.
I have visited audio shows in Chicago , Kansas City , St.Louis , Los Angeles and London.
I have talked with men that has devoted their lives to audio. I have never heard an audio engineer or CEO's of any speaker company tell anyone that their speakers needed a break-in period. That may be true with the new speakers that are poorly designed.
This is an era of video not audio !
I would also like to know where you get your information. By the way I have keep most of my audio magazines , Audio , High Fidelity Magazine , Stereo Review , annual Stereo
reviews dating back to 1962 !
He later changed his tune to sound more like: Ummm... well... I WAS in the same room when they were talking during the show... :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by melvin walker
My post if you read it was 12 feet apart.
I stand corrected. How did you arrive at that figure ?
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Originally Posted by melvin walker
If you are in disagreement with my statement concerning an issue offer a counterpoint , not about me but the issue !
Indeed, I agree we should focus on the issue. So what $50k speaker(s) have you heard that is/are responsible for your opinion regarding a comparison to golden oldies?
rw
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Originally Posted by JohnMichael
Music is learned , class plays a major role in what we listen to. The more affluent we are the more likely our parents played a role in the type of music we listen to.
Generally lower class people are exposed to music by their peers. On the other hand classical , jazz , broadway etc , parents generally play a role in exposing their children to those forms of music.
This is from another Melvin Walker thread.
Melvin has been too busy explaining how our socio-econonmic levels influence our music to answer your question. He has also been busy ending sentences in prepostitions. Something that normally does not happen in the upper levels of society.
And you should learn how to use spell check ! Do you know the definition of socio-economic ? I am quite sure in reading your post you are definitely lower class.
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Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
I like this one better...
He later changed his tune to sound more like: Ummm... well... I WAS in the same room when they were talking during the show... :rolleyes:
Other forum would have censored you. It appears AudioReview's has very low standards
in regards to language being used by it's members.
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Originally Posted by markw
http://forums.audioreview.com/showth...hlight=12+feet
I believe this is where mel first removed his head from his rectum to utter his first words here. After which, he promptly reinserted it and will, on occasion, remove it temporarialy and grace us with more pearls of wisdom, all personal opinions, he mines from up there.
Also, please note that this is the ONLY piece of cocrete (so to speak) advice he's offered in his short but illustrious tenure here. Every other post has been his opinions bemoaning the days gone by.
The running joke here (aside from ol' mel himself) is trying to get him to tell us from where he pulls these nuggets, but I think I've stumbled on the answer. See the first sentence in this post.
The appears that this website allows all types of language , I wonder is there anyone that monitors this site ?
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My apologies
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Originally Posted by melvin walker
The appears that this website allows all types of language , I wonder is there anyone that monitors this site ?
Melvin, I can only speak for myself, but I'm sorry that some have descended to bashing you. If people don't like what you say, they should do less bashing and more ignoring.
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Originally Posted by JohnMichael
Music is learned , class plays a major role in what we listen to. The more affluent we are the more likely our parents played a role in the type of music we listen to.
Generally lower class people are exposed to music by their peers. On the other hand classical , jazz , broadway etc , parents generally play a role in exposing their children to those forms of music.
This is from another Melvin Walker thread.
Melvin has been too busy explaining how our socio-econonmic levels influence our music to answer your question. He has also been busy ending sentences in prepostitions. Something that normally does not happen in the upper levels of society.
It appears sir you either don't read well are you have difficulty undersatnding what you read.
I wrote " I would AB any speaker system today with a pair of Concert Grands , Lansing Hartsfield's Jensen Imperials , Electro-Voice Patricians , Tannoy Churchill's even a pair of AR3a's, I believe they would hold their own with any present speaker in the $50,000
range "
It appears most of the members of this forum are poor readers. Reading is also learned.
Misspelled words "underatnding , preposititions " sir you can do better than that.
Spelling is also learned.
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Originally Posted by melvin walker
And you should learn how to use spell check ! Do you know the definition of socio-economic ? I am quite sure in reading your post you are definitely lower class.
Melvin, I'm disappointed. I had hoped you were made of better stuff. You know the kind of stuff that builds good character; the kind of stuff that's not for sale. You just took a cheap shot at one of the nicest and fairest moderators I've ever had to pleasure of reading. Shame.
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What a spectacle this thread has become. Sure makes for some fun reading. But what a load of BS! And that coming from the BS champion himself.
:nonod: :nonod: :nonod: :nonod: :nonod:
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Originally Posted by melvin walker
" I would AB any speaker system today with a pair of Concert Grands , Lansing Hartsfield's Jensen Imperials , Electro-Voice Patricians , Tannoy Churchill's even a pair of AR3a's, I believe they would hold their own with any present speaker in the $50,000
range " .
no bashing here...
but, I have compared my advents (both single and double (stacked)) against my pair of Thiel CS2.3's ($3.6k in the USA, back in 1997, around € 5K here in europe...) and the advents didn't stand a chance.
first you have to hear a 50k pair of speakers before you can even think about comparing them to anything else.
you also said that 'you were member of other forums too', I haven't seen you on www.audiokarma.org yet, they'll love you and your gear there, I'm pretty sure of that :)
Keep them spinning,
Bert.
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Originally Posted by Feanor
Melvin, I can only speak for myself, but I'm sorry that some have descended to bashing you. If people don't like what you say, they should do less bashing and more ignoring.
Bill, you're on an island all by yourself.
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Originally Posted by noddin0ff
Melvin, I'm disappointed. I had hoped you were made of better stuff. You know the kind of stuff that builds good character; the kind of stuff that's not for sale. You just took a cheap shot at one of the nicest and fairest moderators I've every had to pleasure of reading. Shame.
Absolutely! Shame on you, and Melvin, you are skating on the thinest of thin ice with that attack on JM.
I have a question for you. Why do you come here? Numerous times you have said how bad and rude this forum is, how other members should be banned and how you are a member of many others fora. So why come here, if it's soooooooo beneath you?
And there I was thinking you left a while ago.
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Originally Posted by melvin walker
It appears sir you either don't read well are you have difficulty undersatnding what you read.
I wrote " I would AB any speaker system today with a pair of Concert Grands , Lansing Hartsfield's Jensen Imperials , Electro-Voice Patricians , Tannoy Churchill's even a pair of AR3a's, I believe they would hold their own with any present speaker in the $50,000
range "
It appears most of the members of this forum are poor readers. Reading is also learned.
Misspelled words "underatnding , preposititions " sir you can do better than that.
Spelling is also learned.
I should not type while angry. I should not let someone such as you make me angry because you are certainly not worth it. Your contributions to this site have been minimal. Your knowledge of current equipment seems non existent. You ignore members request that you clarify a statement. Are you here just to agitate?
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Originally Posted by melvin walker
And you should learn how to use spell check !
No space between "check" and "!"
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Originally Posted by melvin
That has nothing to do with the history of high fidelity. It is ironic that we as Americans no so little of our history , as in this case the history of high fidelity.
Saul Marantz and James Lansing is as important to audio as Enzo Farrari and Ferry Porsche is to high performance cars.
That's... know and are.
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Originally Posted by melvin
Has the changes in popular music has an effect in how we buy audio equipment today?
Way off on this one. Have the changes... and had an effect...
You contradict youself at every turn old man.
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Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
I like this one better...
He later changed his tune to sound more like: Ummm... well... I WAS in the same room when they were talking during the show... :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by melvin
Other forum would have censored you. It appears AudioReview's has very low standards in regards to language being used by it's members.
Not seeing any low standard language in that post. That's forums, and, didn't we already cover the colorfulness of the language used here? Didn't you already leave once?
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Originally Posted by melvin
As one ages it is natural for them to not hear as well. Women can hear better than men , especially at higher frequencies.
You're what, 60 something? Your own words speak volumes about you old man.
BTW (By The Way), does Nurse Ratchet know you've escaped from the psych ward?
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Originally Posted by JohnMichael
I should not type while angry. I should not let someone such as you make me angry because you are certainly not worth it. Your contributions to this site have been minimal. Your knowledge of current equipment seems non existent. You ignore members request that you clarify a statement. Are you here just to agitate?
Does your computer have "spell check " if so why not use it.
It appears your knowlege of spell check matches your knowledge of audio.
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Originally Posted by Bernd
Absolutely! Shame on you, and Melvin, you are skating on the thinest of thin ice with that attack on JM.
I have a question for you. Why do you come here? Numerous times you have said how bad and rude this forum is, how other members should be banned and how you are a member of many others fora. So why come here, if it's soooooooo beneath you?
And there I was thinking you left a while ago.
It's called slumming ! You to should try using spell check.
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NO Space Between "slumming" And "!"
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and 'to', at least in his sentence should have been 'too'...
we make mistakes too melvin, everybody does, that includes you too.
Keep them spinning,
Bert.
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Originally Posted by melvin walker
It's called slumming ! You to should try using spell check.
Ahh, you're back. And I thought you left for good!
Ahh, da bist Du ja wieder. Und ich dachte Du hatest uns fuer immer verlassen.
Peace
Frieden
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