Personally I think it is threads like "Union" thread that have turned this site into a pale comparison of its former self. If you were a visitor to this site in the past couple of weeks and clicked on the Latest Posts tab about the only activity you would have seen would have been less than handful of members engaging in name calling and general ill behavior towards each other on mostly political-economic subjects. It is a bit much most of the time especially when it is clear that at a certain point neither side is listening to each other. Mods around here do not shut down posts often enough once they turn from subject matter to individual opinions on individuals. Just my two cents.........