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Whattup Beefy
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Originally Posted by Groundbeef
Seeing as this thread was started in 2005, and only revived today for god-knows what reason, I would assume its already been resolved.
Wow, hadn't even noticed that. I thought it was just another one of Jay's desperate pleas for attention.
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Originally Posted by bobsticks
Wow, hadn't even noticed that. I thought it was just another one of Jay's desperate pleas for attention.
I just gave you a greenie for being such a helper. Keep it up. Maybe you can pass GM again.
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Originally Posted by Groundbeef
I just gave you a greenie for being such a helper. Keep it up. Maybe you can pass GM again.
NNNOOOOO!!!
can't take the pressure...
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I am so not done with you.
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I'll b!tch slap you even harder if you mess with my rep again pal.
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Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
I'll b!tch slap you even harder if you mess with my rep again pal.
Oh come now Slick Rich Dick Cheney, let us not fight among ourselves. Let's save our disapprobation for that octagenarian buffoon and his half-wit, donut-eating nephew.
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This thread is hilarious
This thread is off the curb.....and into traffic. First sound waves do not see paint, they see hard services. The sheen of the paint is not going to make a bit of difference at low frequencies, and there is no acoustical evidence it would effect the highs either. There is tones of acoustical research out there attributed to the effect of the shape of a space, the give of the walls, curves and reflective shapes, types of acoustical materials and their effectiveness at different frequencies, but I see zero on the effects of paint.
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I'm still not rich......
Should I sell cans of Audiophile Grade Sherwin Williams on Audiogon? If so how much?
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Originally Posted by bobsticks
Oh come now Slick Rich Dick Cheney, let us not fight among ourselves. Let's save our disapprobation for that octagenarian buffoon and his half-wit, donut-eating nephew.
Gawd I wish I had yours and beefy's vocabulary! :yesnod:
And
Sorry. I'm very protective of my Spectacular Aura.
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Originally Posted by bobsticks
Let's get down to the real deal here Jaybo. You gettin' yelled at again by the neighbor-units for playing that Crunk-Alot!! disc you got at the truckstop?
Pleeze. Com'n talk to me when you are ready to step up to cans of high resolution paint. Now that's Bigg Ballin'
JRA
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Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
This thread is off the curb.....and into traffic. First sound waves do not see paint, they see hard services. The sheen of the paint is not going to make a bit of difference at low frequencies, and there is no acoustical evidence it would effect the highs either. There is tones of acoustical research out there attributed to the effect of the shape of a space, the give of the walls, curves and reflective shapes, types of acoustical materials and their effectiveness at different frequencies, but I see zero on the effects of paint.
It IS amazing that this thread was resurrected after all this time.
Sir Terrence; you're almost there. You're undoubtedly correct when you say that "sound waves do not see paint, they see hard surfaces". The next step is to realize that as a paint gets shinier, it gets harder. Let me say this again; the shinier the paint, the harder the surface. This is why paints with higher sheens are used in kitchens and bathrooms, and on doors and woodwork. The harder surface that a glossy paint provides enables you to clean the surface more easily. A hard, shiny surface releases dirt much easier than a soft, porous one. It also reflects more sound. Stand in the middle of two empty rooms, one painted with semi-gloss, the other with flat. Clap your hands. The difference will immediately be apparent. Not a huge difference, mind you, but a difference nonetheless.
I'm sorry that you haven't been able to confirm this on the internet.I guess that there's just not enough of us painters/audio enthusiasts/forum dwellers around to make an impact on this narrow slice of arcane knowledge.
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Originally Posted by RoyY51
Stand in the middle of two empty rooms, one painted with semi-gloss, the other with flat. Clap your hands. The difference will immediately be apparent. Not a huge difference, mind you, but a difference nonetheless.
I'm sorry that you haven't been able to confirm this on the internet.I guess that there's just not enough of us painters/audio enthusiasts/forum dwellers around to make an impact on this narrow slice of arcane knowledge.
Perhaps. But both rooms need to be of identical size and shape for the test to make any sort of difference.
For example, tear out the carpet, and replace with hardwood. Hi-Gloss paint, or Flat paint, it's going to be a moot point. Carpet makes more of a difference.
Or, in your example, take a High-Gloss room, and put in some drapes, or other wall baffles. Then take another room, same dimensions, and painted in High-Gloss. Now simply paint it Flat.
The room with the baffles, or drapes will have less echo, than the flat paint room without treatments.
Paint is paint. It's not a sound treatment. Whatever minor, marginal difference between Flat/High-Gloss can be easily lost with other simple changes (adding furniture, window treatments, carpet, etc).
Another way would be to examine 2 cars. Does a car painted in high-gloss auto paint drive any faster than that of the same car painted in primer? Doubtful. And yet the High-gloss paint is "less" wind resistant because its a glossy finish.
There are many variables that can affect sound. Your chosen paint finish is somewhere near the bottom.
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Originally Posted by jrhymeammo
Pleeze. Com'n talk to me when you are ready to step up to cans of high resolution paint. Now that's Bigg Ballin'
JRA
You wanna go big ballin' wit the best b? Comawn down to these parts and check out my Postiche Audio audiophile paint bro. Made from the rarest of Persian oils and pigments found only in the Amazon rainforests...you can't hang. And the fuschia is to die for.
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I've seen Magnetic paint..... very cool.....
I'd like do do a theater room with wall-to-wall, on wall, and on-ceiling 70's shag carpet......
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Originally Posted by johnny p
I've seen Magnetic paint..... very cool.....
I'd like do do a theater room with wall-to-wall, on wall, and on-ceiling 70's shag carpet......
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Originally Posted by Austin Powers
Oh behaaave :)
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Originally Posted by Groundbeef
Perhaps. But both rooms need to be of identical size and shape for the test to make any sort of difference.
For example, tear out the carpet, and replace with hardwood. Hi-Gloss paint, or Flat paint, it's going to be a moot point. Carpet makes more of a difference.
Or, in your example, take a High-Gloss room, and put in some drapes, or other wall baffles. Then take another room, same dimensions, and painted in High-Gloss. Now simply paint it Flat.
The room with the baffles, or drapes will have less echo, than the flat paint room without treatments.
Paint is paint. It's not a sound treatment. Whatever minor, marginal difference between Flat/High-Gloss can be easily lost with other simple changes (adding furniture, window treatments, carpet, etc).
Another way would be to examine 2 cars. Does a car painted in high-gloss auto paint drive any faster than that of the same car painted in primer? Doubtful. And yet the High-gloss paint is "less" wind resistant because its a glossy finish.
There are many variables that can affect sound. Your chosen paint finish is somewhere near the bottom.
I totally agree with Groundbeef's points. In the original post, it was never my contention that the type of paint used in your listening space would provided anything but minor differences. My main objective was to rebut Sir T's misinformation regarding coatings having to be a minimum thickness (3-4" thick) to affect sound quality. This would be true if we were talking about sound absorption, but sound reflection is another matter entirely. Carpet, drapes, furniture, etc...will all have a much greater effect on sound quality than paint.
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Originally Posted by bobsticks
You wanna go big ballin' wit the best b? Comawn down to these parts and check out my Postiche Audio audiophile paint bro. Made from the rarest of Persian oils and pigments found only in the Amazon rainforests...you can't hang. And the fuschia is to die for.
Do what?
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There is a product available called AVM to address vibration.
Not sure if I like the name "Anti Vibration Magic" .
And yes it just looks like blue face paint.
Is it magic? Or does it do what is says it will do?
Short answer is your system will change. Less vibration on the parts and energy being used to amplify that energy is now available in other areas.
Used it.....still use it.
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