Interesting development on AR.com today

[WmAx]

I won't allow it. Didn't your mothers ever tell you to "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all"?.

Oh, my goodness gracious. Did you happen to realize this is not a kiddie board? THis is not some PC place where everyone is wearing a brand new pair of rose-colored lens glasses. Honestly, if you are serious in trying to enforce some sort of delusional happy-go-lucky play land where everything is good or it is prohbited, this is a place I will not remain.

-Chris

[ericl]

That's why I am asking that people stop behaving like kiddies!

cheers,
eric

[WmAx]

That's why I am asking that people stop behaving like kiddies!

cheers,
eric

A general statement, as you just made, is not meaningful. This leaves open far too many possibilities to be construed.

Cite specific posts and your detailed analysis of such examples.

So far you have failed to specifically define two things that are of importance:

1. Your definition of 'personal attack'.

2. Your definintion of 'kiddie behaviour'.

Instead of a generalization that is for the most part meaningless, please specifically define the parameters of these defintions in your perspective, as you will enforce.

-Chris

[ericl]

I'll put up some rules soon.

-Eric

[dmb_fan]

I'll put up some rules soon.

-Eric

Eric,

I've been a member here since 2000 with a long absence for most of 2003 due to the worst troll problem I've ever seen on an internet message board. I mention the troll problem to help explain that I am eager to see an active moderator keep some sort of order around here. I applaud your willingness to take an active roll.

I also want to suggest that you post your specific rules for a comment period--one week should suffice--before they go into effect. It's obvious that unanimous support does not exist for the elimination of scientific and rational viewpoints from this board. I don't know to what degree you plan to limit these viewpoints, and I'll reserve judgement for whenever I see the list of rules. But I hope you're willing to take into consideration the opinions of the folks who have made this their virtual home for many years.

I have no idea what transpired between you and skeptic, but every incoming authority figure to any situation--work, politics, classrooms, message boards, cub scouts--should expect to take a couple lumps in their initial days and weeks in power. Skeptic's resignation was your first lump. In my opinion, the lesson to learn is that each new authority figure should go slow and take careful measure of all competing interests before flexing his/her muscles.

I leave you with this thought. The most active period I've seen here at audioreview was between 2000 and 2001 when a good thread could generate two or three THOUSAND views before it fell off the end of the page in one or two days. (There was a 40 thread per page limit back then and new replies did not jump the thread to the top of the page--once forty more people started threads, yours was off the page.) Some of the folks around here probably still remember Norb, the moderator, storyteller, and spiritual leader of the rag tag bunch that used to gather at the P&B. He was able to generate that kind of traffic not by dictatorial regime, but by encouraging a love and enthusiasm for all things (and all viewpoints) audio.

Anyway, my $.02 is to take it slow and work with the population here to avoid a mass exodus of the few members that still hang around this dusty place.

-Adam

[brulaha]

Eric,

I've been a member here since 2000 with a long absence for most of 2003 due to the worst troll problem I've ever seen on an internet message board. I mention the troll problem to help explain that I am eager to see an active moderator keep some sort of order around here. I applaud your willingness to take an active roll.

I also want to suggest that you post your specific rules for a comment period--one week should suffice--before they go into effect. It's obvious that unanimous support does not exist for the elimination of scientific and rational viewpoints from this board. I don't know to what degree you plan to limit these viewpoints, and I'll reserve judgement for whenever I see the list of rules. But I hope you're willing to take into consideration the opinions of the folks who have made this their virtual home for many years.

I have no idea what transpired between you and skeptic, but every incoming authority figure to any situation--work, politics, classrooms, message boards, cub scouts--should expect to take a couple lumps in their initial days and weeks in power. Skeptic's resignation was your first lump. In my opinion, the lesson to learn is that each new authority figure should go slow and take careful measure of all competing interests before flexing his/her muscles.

I leave you with this thought. The most active period I've seen here at audioreview was between 2000 and 2001 when a good thread could generate two or three THOUSAND views before it fell off the end of the page in one or two days. (There was a 40 thread per page limit back then and new replies did not jump the thread to the top of the page--once forty more people started threads, yours was off the page.) Some of the folks around here probably still remember Norb, the moderator, storyteller, and spiritual leader of the rag tag bunch that used to gather at the P&B. He was able to generate that kind of traffic not by dictatorial regime, but by encouraging a love and enthusiasm for all things (and all viewpoints) audio.

Anyway, my $.02 is to take it slow and work with the population here to avoid a mass exodus of the few members that still hang around this dusty place.

-Adam

I couldn't agree more. I was dismayed to see Norb leave, and the deterioration that ensued. Things appear to be better than when I decided to call it quits, but this place is still a shell of it's former self. One of the things that made the board great was the community of regulars. Those who were new often stuck around because they picked up on the camaraderie. However, to have this board simply cater to those new to the discussion, and alienate those who have been here for years would be a travesty of travesties. There has to be a very careful balance maintained. I think some censorship is good, but error on the side of judicious use. Censorship can quickly cross over into steering and manipulation. I think that is why some are vehemently stating their opinions.

Just my 2 cents…

Out of curiosity, has anyone heard from pogue and bone?

[F1]

Skeptic was number four the most active member in this forum after Mtrycrafts, RGA and Woochifer. He's a good technical source. It's not good to see him gone! Wish him all the best.
Oh btw, the page still indicates that he's Online.....