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    Here is the AR thread where I first posted the image that is now being used elsewhere.

    Audio-Technica F7, any users?
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    Oh wow I can imagine you thinking, "Boy that photo looks awfully familiar!" haha. Which sites are using it?

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    JM, is the F7 a high or low compliance cartridge? How would you characterize the general tone of the cartridge-warm, neutral or bright?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackraven View Post
    JM, is the F7 a high or low compliance cartridge? How would you characterize the general tone of the cartridge-warm, neutral or bright?

    A moving coil cartridge is always on the low compliance side of life. AT suggests 2 gram tracking force. I find the cartridge neutral but not colorless as the OM20 can become. You will need a phono preamp with good sensitivity and gain of 60db or more.

    I find the sound of MC cartridges to sound more solid than MM cartridges. That may be due to the higher tracking forces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMichael View Post
    A moving coil cartridge is always on the low compliance side of life. AT suggests 2 gram tracking force. I find the cartridge neutral but not colorless as the OM20 can become. You will need a phono preamp with good sensitivity and gain of 60db or more.

    I find the sound of MC cartridges to sound more solid than MM cartridges. That may be due to the higher tracking forces.
    I'm a little confused. The only MC cartridge that I've heard was a Sumiko Blackbird and it was called a "high output" MC cartridge as there was also a "low output" version available. Is output and compliance two different things? I only got back into vinyl a couple of years ago and a lot of the terminology is new to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack in Wilmington View Post
    I'm a little confused. The only MC cartridge that I've heard was a Sumiko Blackbird and it was called a "high output" MC cartridge as there was also a "low output" version available. Is output and compliance two different things? I only got back into vinyl a couple of years ago and a lot of the terminology is new to me.

    Think of compliance as a suspension. A low compliance cart will have a stiffer suspension and need a heavier arm. A high compliance cart will have a softer suspension and need a lighter arm to perform best.

    Output in moving coil cartridges are determined by how many turns of wire and power of the magnet. A low output MC will have fewer turns of wire and therefore can only generate a smaller signal. Having less wire creates a lower mass generating system said to trace the grooves better with maximum information retrieval. The more turns of wire in a high output MC add mass to the generating system. More mass can reduce amount of information retrieved.

    Compliance/suspesion is the springs and struts of the cartridge and the output is the horsepower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMichael View Post
    Think of compliance as a suspension. A low compliance cart will have a stiffer suspension and need a heavier arm. A high compliance cart will have a softer suspension and need a lighter arm to perform best.

    Output in moving coil cartridges are determined by how many turns of wire and power of the magnet. A low output MC will have fewer turns of wire and therefore can only generate a smaller signal. Having less wire creates a lower mass generating system said to trace the grooves better with maximum information retrieval. The more turns of wire in a high output MC add mass to the generating system. More mass can reduce amount of information retrieved.

    Compliance/suspesion is the springs and struts of the cartridge and the output is the horsepower.
    Thanks JM. More info is always good. Something more to consider when making a new purchase.
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