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    Thanks, GM...Just what I needed: Another reason to teleport outta here at the earliest opportunity!

    I read you loud and clear, Hy: Half of those looking for advice are looking for confirmation; the other half are just dumping more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyfi
    I just had quite the opposite thing happen. Someone I recently met from PE came over for an afternoon of music and entertainment. We had been to their place a few weeks ago and he has a very nice system of the top Cambridge Integrated and one of their better CDPs along with Polk LS-15s (2nd from their top). Nice laid back warm sound but I never got a chance to hear it cranked up that day.

    So Monday, after they were over Sunday, I got an email from the guy....

    " We had a great time. I loved the beer, and the food. The @@@@ was pretty potent but very good. Your stereo was possibly the best system I've ever heard in my lifetime. It was a real joy for me being the music fan that I am.

    I played the Gov't Mule song and Yoke Shire tune as soon as I got home to compare. Now granted, I wasn't near as stoned, but I could tell a big difference in the mid-range as you noted, not that mine sounds bad. That's what made it shocking: that you could improve something measurably when that in itself sounds good. However, I was kind of encouraged when mine didn't suck too bad compared to yours (I was thinking that hearing your stereo would cost me serious cash). My bass was a little better but a definitely muddier."


    So here is a guy that reacts opposite than what the OP encountered. I hate when you are asked for advice and then hear " "never mind." If I couldn't get that same sound for a couple hundred bucks, then it's not worth it to me."
    well, HIS SYSTEM WILL NEVER SOUND better than yours of course, but you would be surprized at how good it will sound with some decent speakers.
    Mathew Polk sold his soul to the mass market, and his stuff stinks on ice.
    Compare his prefab crap to his earlier efforts.
    GET YOU FRIEND TO INVEST IN A DECENT SET OF BOOKSHELVES,
    I think the results will be somewhat miraculous
    "2nd from the top" crap is still crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Groundbeef
    I think Pixel confused the OP's request for a polite way to help a friend with "How to be an asshat".

    That is a polite reaction.
    My normal reaction would be to go to the car , get a tire tool, and go to work on
    "improving" his system.
    Its a great test of dedication tho, when you sadly tell a friend that his HTIB
    needs to have a road flare (lit of course) stuck into the DVD tray and then the entire thing pushed off of a convienent rooftop, and that its going to take the cost of a decent used car to get something listenable.
    This is HT and high end audio, it aint for sissies.
    You are not doing anybody a favor by pretending a decent system is within reach.
    However if you can convince him to put out a grand or so he can have something
    that is quite listenable, probably quite suited to his plebian tastes.
    And "new leaf"?
    All I said was LETTUCE proceed!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelthis
    well, HIS SYSTEM WILL NEVER SOUND better than yours of course, but you would be surprized at how good it will sound with some decent speakers.
    Mathew Polk sold his soul to the mass market, and his stuff stinks on ice.
    Compare his prefab crap to his earlier efforts.
    GET YOU FRIEND TO INVEST IN A DECENT SET OF BOOKSHELVES,
    I think the results will be somewhat miraculous
    "2nd from the top" crap is still crap.
    Your preaching to the choir! Polk-Bose, is there a difference?

    It does sound better than most peoples rigs but that is the Cambridge gear.

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    I love it when someone hears my ESL's and asks, "can I get some speakers that sound like that in bookshelf size?".
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    Now watch yer blastin' Polk. I think his early stuff, before he sold his soul, is pert near respectable. I listen to a pair o' 7c's now and find 'em quite listenable, thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auricauricle
    Now watch yer blastin' Polk. I think his early stuff, before he sold his soul, is pert near respectable. I listen to a pair o' 7c's now and find 'em quite listenable, thank you!
    The real early Bose speakers were also respectable and then fell by the Wave side.

    I just don't lump either of them in with B&W, Dynaudio, JM Labs-Focal..........

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    We-e-ll no, I wouldn't either, fer that matter....Mebbe you'll get lucky and find a pair!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auricauricle
    We-e-ll no, I wouldn't either, fer that matter....Mebbe you'll get lucky and find a pair!
    What are you trying to say about Hyfi? I have it on good authority that he was born with a pair.
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    And they call me the perv around here?
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    I didn't step into that one! No-o-o-o-o...Aw-w-w-w-w-w!

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    How to "politely" criticize someone's system.

    You don't...unless you are asking to do so and then do it very lightly.

    A few of years ago, I was visiting an aquainance that could not stop stating that his stereo was the best around. At that time he had a 60's vintage Pioneer amp and a pair of low price three way (10" woofer) speakers. I went along with him.

    A little while later he was at my place and we had time to listen to a few tunes on my system, at the time a simple Luxman amp (hybrid) and a better Energy stand mounted monitors (6" woofer). The experience must have an effect on him for he upgraded his system to the point where all of us would drool at the sight.

    Educate, do not critize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auricauricle
    I didn't step into that one! No-o-o-o-o...Aw-w-w-w-w-w!
    Southampton is almost a Philly suburb. Us homeboys, we gotta stick together. Besides I once had a girlfriend that lived very near Southampton. She lived in a place named Bryn Gweled. That "G" word is probably misspelled. I'm working phonetically here.

    Back to the topic:
    Doc Sage; I frequently have people bragging to me about how fantastic their Circuit City rack system is. After hearing my rig they almost always start talking about "upgrading". My "Stats" get the most attention. A few have brought their wives. Opening comments from the ladies are usually something like "They're awfully big" or "Why are they in the middle of the floor?"
    No big panels for those guys!
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    Yes, Sir. The "wife factor" is sometime hard to live with. I live alone and my speaker system takes the most precious cubic inches in my humble living room. I had more then once a lady mentioning that "those boxes are very big", just simple floor standing tower, Joseph Audio RM 25's but they always add that the sound IS VERY GOOD. On the other hand the husband/boyfriend always comment on the wood finish, few ever see good veneer work. Interesting difference of views from the different sexes.

    Got my girlfriend a small system last Xmas, a simple Denon combi unit with some small monitor and a 8" sub (Paradign's). She always want to hide the monitors behind a plant or a displayed item like a ceramic vase. She does not appreciate that a speaker looks like it looks for a reason and that it should be free of obstacle for better sound quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    And they call me the perv around here?
    I call em like I sees' em pretty boy.
    AS for Polk the grandeur of his earlier stufff only emphasises his slip into mass
    market whoredom. His earlier efforts were really nice, serious gear.
    Everybody knows he has slipped.
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    (politely) Tell him there are other places to buy audio equipment besides k mart

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    Quote Originally Posted by theebadone
    (politely) Tell him there are other places to buy audio equipment besides k mart
    So, an Ipod is not "the best" source available?
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    Right as always, Pix!

    Tell 'im to upgrade to a reel to reel and get a belt to strap on the back if portability is an issue...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auricauricle
    Right as always, Pix!

    Tell 'im to upgrade to a reel to reel and get a belt to strap on the back if portability is an issue...
    Always wanted one of those but couldn't justify it
    Speaking of which, just when is Pioneer coming out with the long promised
    analog reel to reel that is supposed to tap into the analog market, analog
    without the limitations of records?
    DON'T tease with stuff you will never deliver on, Pioneer!
    Thats what women are for.
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