How loud do you listen?

[mlsstl]

ALL the peak dBs I listed are correct.

Based on what? Where's the requested detail? The numbers are "correct" because you said so, or you read them somewhere?

I gave a detailed illustration of how one can easily misrepresent what a concert listener hears at his eardrum. There has been no response at all from you - no explanation of what was missed or what error was made. No comment on the difference between filling a concert venue with sound versus a home listening room.

As for rock, trance and other music, yes their live concerts are very loud thanks to massive amplification and vast speaker arrays. The only limit there is the volume knob and when the concert system runs out of steam. However, those concerts are also just loud - not much dynamic range is involved.

[E-Stat]

Based on what? Where's the requested detail? The numbers are "correct" because you said so, or you read them somewhere?

Because the widely referenced study by Marshall Chasin fails to provide any such information other than the 137 db figure was achieved during Wagner's Der Ring des Nibelungen.

Since he is an audiologist with a concern for hearing loss, I suspect the measurements are from a player's perspective and not the audience.

Hear Music

I too, noted the the notion that when readings conflicted, they used the higher one. Like if you bumped the microphone.

[mlsstl]

Because the widely referenced study by Marshall Chasin fails to provide any such information other than the 137 db figure was achieved during Wagner's Der Ring des Nibelungen.

Since he is an audiologist with a concern for hearing loss, I suspect the measurements are from a player's perspective and not the audience.

That's in keeping with what I suspected.

It still gets back to the issue that it is unnecessary for your system to reproduce a 137 dB sound in your living room. A symphonic concert-goer would never experience that in the audience.

Hearing loss is a concern even for classical musicians, but except for the rarest of oddities, recordings are made from the listener's perspective. The thought that I should go deaf in my left ear in sympathy with the violinist because I like Kreisler's "Leibesleid" makes no sense. ;-)

Context and details are important.