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Emotiva tid bits from the horses mouth
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I've seen that video before. The CDP ERC-1, seems to be built rock solid. I'd like to know what OP amps, DAC's and Clock are used in it. I would love to see it compared to the Marantz 8003, Rega Apollo and 740/840c's. I might have to order one and give it an audition.
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I hope some one does, it may be me. I read some of the reviews off the Emotiva forum and it gives me some reservations. Most of the people compared the ERC-1 to some existing DVD or Blu-ray player, one guy compared it to a 19 year old JVC top of line but still 19 years old. The reservation comes in that no one really said the ERC-1 was better in any significant way. Two guys auditioned the ERC against the JVC, the JVC owner decided not to buy the ERC. He may have just been used to the JVC sound and not wanting to change but my goodness if the ERC can't sound any better than the output of a 19 year old player then you have to wonder if people aren't just in love with the looks. One guy preferred it to the Panasonic BR player but not by much and even if so what does that say. I know the ERC is only $399.00 but it should be standing out against such modest competition. Going up against something like the 8003 or 840 the ERC could get fed lunch. AVS forum writing about Emo at the show seemed to think their 2-channel set up with the ERC-1 sounded good though, but they seem to have a love affair with Emo. I really have to wonder if it's that good or if people are just thrilled to get equipment that cheap, maybe reverse power of suggestion, they want it to sound good. They have a thread devoted to the ERC but I didn't want to read through that many pages to see if I could gleen any useful info.
BR, you would be a good candidate as well having compared Marantz and Cambridge.
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Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
............ERC can't sound any better than the output of a 19 year old player then you have to wonder if people aren't just in love with the looks.
Have to admit the gear does look real nice. I lost interest when the last half the video is about the limited editions amps have laser etching and nary a blurb on the SQ.
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Opened my audio cabinet door the other day; saw my LPA-1 sitting there, all by itself, nice-n-quiet, and said to myself... shoot, I forgot all about you Emo. Proceeded to dust it off...
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Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
Opened my audio cabinet door the other day; saw my LPA-1 sitting there, all by itself, nice-n-quiet, and said to myself... shoot, I forgot all about you Emo. Proceeded to dust it off...
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Here ya go, Richie, just teh thang fer you.:1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Ccf...layer_embedded
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Originally Posted by pixelthis
So when are you going to admit you were wrong about XM being dead, dumbass?
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Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
Kapassa!? Rich
= Que pasa, correct Mr. P? Not much, just trying to get pixelthis to admit he was wrong about something.
How are you sir? As I was eluding to, my Emotiva LPA-1, recommended to me here by a knowledgeable member, is still working flawlessly after it's first year in service. Sits in the bottom of my audio cabinet effortlessly pumping out 5 channels of audio bliss. :thumbsup:
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Mr. P., maybe this is why people here are trying to get you to buy the player - they want you to be the guinea pig. Borrowing a page from Pixie's playbook...
http://www.sjtent.com/EF/shoppingcar...ages/69072.jpg
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I've pretty much decided to try the preamp. That NAD c565 is more than I wanted to spend but looks like a cool unit. Emotiva won't admit comparing the ERC to any other units and no one seems to have great things to say about sound, only how good it looks or heavy it is. I can get my hands on a NAD, maybe I'll start there and if I'm not happy with what I hear then bring the ERC in for a spin. It would also be cool to have both Emo pieces to see what synergy there might be.
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= Que pasa, correct Mr. P? Not much, just trying to get pixelthis to admit he was wrong about something.
How are you sir? As I was eluding to, my Emotiva LPA-1, recommended to me here by a knowledgeable member, is still working flawlessly after it's first year in service. Sits in the bottom of my audio cabinet effortlessly pumping out 5 channels of audio bliss. :thumbsup:
Thats you standard, that something work for a year?
NO WONDER YOU LIKE PONTIACS SO MUCH.:1:
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Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
That NAD c565 is more than I wanted to spend but looks like a cool unit. Emotiva won't admit comparing the ERC to any other units and no one seems to have great things to say about sound, only how good it looks or heavy it is
"..... Emotiva won't admit comparing the ERC to any other units....." ??????????
Mr. Peabody, can you expound on this statement please. Most reputable companies don't.specifically compare their own units to the competition, but let the user and reviewers make comparisons.
"..... That NAD c565 is more than I wanted to spend but looks like a cool unit....." Can you quote where NAD has admitted to comparing to any other unit. You say, "ERC ... no one seems to have great things to say about sound, only how good it looks or heavy it is....." You criticize others for commenting about how good the ERC-1 looks while yourself saying the NAD C565 "looks like a cool unit."
Mr. Peabody, how can you make these outlandish statements when you've obviouly not searched the forums yourself? You even admit above, ".....AVS forum writing about Emo at the show seemed to think their 2-channel set up with the ERC-1 sounded good though, but they seem to have a love affair with Emo. I really have to wonder if it's that good or if people are just thrilled to get equipment that cheap, maybe reverse power of suggestion, they want it to sound good. They have a thread devoted to the ERC but I didn't want to read through that many pages to see if I could gleen any useful info......" For one who has negative comment after negative comment about Emotiva products, it is odd that you would admit that you didn't want to read thru the thread. Then how could you have concluded that they are in love with Emo? In fact it is just the opposite when I read the entire thread several months ago. Chu Gai and his sharpshooters were tearing apart the guy for his subjective comments and they were generally trash talking Emo. There are finally some positive comments now appearing on that forum.
Why don't you just refrain from posting about Emo products until you are willing to read the threads and posts that I have taken the time to read (before I bought the ERC-1). Your statement that nobody has compared the ERC-1 to other recent players at higher prices is pure nonsense and embarrassing to you, especially when you admit that you haven't taken the time to actually read the posts.
I will admit I am a Emo fan boy, but only after a great deal of study and research before I spent a dime on any of their products. You contunue to write negative comments when you have not even taken the time to study or use the products.
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RR6's reading comprehension slipping again
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Originally Posted by RoadRunner6
"..... Emotiva won't admit comparing the ERC to any other units....." ??????????
Mr. Peabody, can you expound on this statement please. Most reputable companies don't.specifically compare their own units to the competition, but let the user and reviewers make comparisons.
* Well, you don't know what you are talking about. When I was in dialog with SVS they were very candid about what I could expect and how their unit would stand against brands I was considering. Emo could have at least admit who they thought their competition might be.
"..... That NAD c565 is more than I wanted to spend but looks like a cool unit....." Can you quote where NAD has admitted to comparing to any other unit. You say, "ERC ... no one seems to have great things to say about sound, only how good it looks or heavy it is....." You criticize others for commenting about how good the ERC-1 looks while yourself saying the NAD C565 "looks like a cool unit."
* When I said, "looks" like a cool unit, I was referring to features and what it has to offer. I care less what it looks like which is more than I can say for you.
Mr. Peabody, how can you make these outlandish statements when you've obviouly not searched the forums yourself? You even admit above, ".....AVS forum writing about Emo at the show seemed to think their 2-channel set up with the ERC-1 sounded good though, but they seem to have a love affair with Emo. I really have to wonder if it's that good or if people are just thrilled to get equipment that cheap, maybe reverse power of suggestion, they want it to sound good. They have a thread devoted to the ERC but I didn't want to read through that many pages to see if I could gleen any useful info......" For one who has negative comment after negative comment about Emotiva products, it is odd that you would admit that you didn't want to read thru the thread. Then how could you have concluded that they are in love with Emo? In fact it is just the opposite when I read the entire thread several months ago. Chu Gai and his sharpshooters were tearing apart the guy for his subjective comments and they were generally trash talking Emo. There are finally some positive comments now appearing on that forum.
* First of all, you cannot find one negative thing I have said about a Emotiva product. Maybe the company, open to interpretation, or the feedback, but I've never said negative things about the particular product. Now, the AVS Emo forum is mega pages and from the sample I attempted to go through any meaningful posts were far and few. I read a lot of the reviews on Emo's website and they were written by people like you whose point of reference is other entry level gear, or, a DVD player which is not what I call a reference for digital music playback. When you have heard, or owned, such playback as Krell, Conrad Johnson, Arcam, Audio Note and T+A, then your opinion on how good a CD player is may be viable. So don't expect me to jump up and down because you found a CD player that can out perform a DVD player. Some guy on the Emo forum wanted to keep his 19 year old JVC instead of keeping the ERC, what kind of confidence do you think that gives me? Even though I'm looking for a secondary player I want it to sound like music. If I just wanted any noise I have other DVD and cheap players around.
Why don't you just refrain from posting about Emo products until you are willing to read the threads and posts that I have taken the time to read (before I bought the ERC-1). Your statement that nobody has compared the ERC-1 to other recent players at higher prices is pure nonsense and embarrassing to you, especially when you admit that you haven't taken the time to actually read the posts.
* Why don't you quit posting about Emo until you've used something other than what you've bought at Best Buy.
I will admit I am a Emo fan boy, but only after a great deal of study and research before I spent a dime on any of their products. You contunue to write negative comments when you have not even taken the time to study or use the products.
Study & research only goes so far. I can write volumes on how a piece of chocolate tastes but you will never know what it's like until you've actually tasted it for yourself. I realize your comprehension is limited so let me try it this way, you will never know how good Emotiva really is until you've heard and experienced quality hi fi equipment to know if Emo holds up to that.
So you think the Emo processor and power amp is better than your old Sony receiver, I'd hope so for separates. But how would Emo stack up to separates by Anthem, NAD, Marantz, Arcam etc. Emo may fair very well who knows but from what I've seen their main customer base seems to be receiver boys wanting separates on the cheap. This is an advantage for Emo as the mentioned customer base wouldn't know the difference.
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You are very good at begging the question, Mr. Peabody. I didn't insult your intellgience, I simply question your general negative comments about Emo gear and the customers who purchase it. They are not all upgrading from receivers, which you would know if you read the threads.
You avoid answering any of my direct questions, and instead do an end run, attacking my experiemce and my intelligence. I only point out your baseless attacks on Emo gear like the ERC-1 when you yourself admit you haven't even read the threads by its owners.
Once again I point out that,
"......You contunue to write negative comments when you have not even taken the time to study or use the products......"
RR6 :biggrin5:
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Has anyone else noticed the very similar appearance between the Emotiva ERC-1 and the Rotel RCD-1520? Has anyone noticed the difference in price?
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Wow, right down to the slotted loading.
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Originally Posted by JoeE SP9
Has anyone else noticed the very similar appearance between the Emotiva ERC-1 and the Rotel RCD-1520? Has anyone noticed the difference in price?
I smell badge engineering.
Both are made in CHINA YOU KNOW.:1:
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Similarities to the Rotel
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Originally Posted by JoeE SP9
Has anyone else noticed the very similar appearance between the Emotiva ERC-1 and the Rotel RCD-1520? Has anyone noticed the difference in price?
Well, but internally they are also totally different, so I really don't think they share the same manufacturing. Actually the internals on the Emotiva look quite a bit more substantial.
RR6, not to jump on any bandwagons or anything, but you have to admit that the independent reviews aren't exactly plentiful. And I haven't really read any comparisons to other players in it's price range or slightly above (the Cambridge ones come to mind). For Emotiva to compete, it has to offer gear at a competitive edge over NAD, Rotel & Adcom, to mention a few companies that people have mentioned.
Speaking of looks, I'm actually not too fond of the design work that Emotiva did for it's product line. The blue & silver looks a bit kitsch to me. But that's just my opinion. After all, McIntosh uses the same design queues and people love it (although I'm not one of those people either). Now if the Emotiva player is rock solid underneath, then that's perhaps a minor issue for most people, but I just prefer a little less flash in my gear.
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Slot loading is something I'm not really fond of. The only other slot loaders I've seen are car stereo units. I've never thought very highly of them.
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Originally Posted by pixelthis
Thats you standard, that something work for a year?
NO WONDER YOU LIKE PONTIACS SO MUCH.:1:
This post is weak, worthless, and a total waste of time. STFU dumbass.
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Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
This post is weak, worthless, and a total waste of time. STFU dumbass.
PRETTY much like yourself, so I hit the mark.:1:
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Originally Posted by JoeE SP9
Slot loading is something I'm not really fond of. The only other slot loaders I've seen are car stereo units. I've never thought very highly of them.
Great way to mess up a CD, lame for a higher end unit.:1:
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Originally Posted by nightflier
Speaking of looks, I'm actually not too fond of the design work that Emotiva did for it's product line. The blue & silver looks a bit kitsch to me. But that's just my opinion.
I feel the same way. It makes them look gaudy and cheap IMO...kinda like putting underglow on a honda civic.
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Originally Posted by JoeE SP9
Slot loading is something I'm not really fond of. The only other slot loaders I've seen are car stereo units. I've never thought very highly of them.
Hey, all the Bose home units use slot loaders lol. I can't think of a single reason to use a slot loading mechanism other than a foolish attempt to appear high end to the ignorant consumer.
Yeah I know some expensive Meridian players use slot loaders but they are the vast minority.
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Originally Posted by pixelthis
Great way to mess up a CD, lame for a higher end unit.:1:
Absolutely.
I have never actually heard an Emotiva unit first hand but if they sound good for the price i guess you have to make some compromises.
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It seems like slot-loading is the new in-thing in mid/high-end audio. Here's another company going that route:
http://www.perreaux.com/blog/index.c...port-prototype
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A new front runner in the CDP search, the Creek Evolution normally $1095.00 being sold by AA $699.00. Still need to do a bit of research on it. Any one else hear it or other Creek players hit me with some feedback. I like their integrated amps a lot but haven't a great deal of experience with the CDP's.
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Originally Posted by nightflier
RR6, not to jump on any bandwagons or anything, but you have to admit that the independent reviews aren't exactly plentiful. Speaking of looks, I'm actually not too fond of the design work that Emotiva did for it's product line. The blue & silver looks a bit kitsch to me.
I hear you, but you must remember that Emotiva is a very small company with a tiny advertising budget. The ERC-1 has only been on the market for a few months. It is getting a lot of attention considering its price. Surprisingly enough there is already a review out on the Emotiva USP-1 stereo preamp. There have been a lot of owner reviews on the ERC-1. Some sceptics complain that there are no comparisons to more expensive units and then when there is such a comparison they blast it for being a "wild claim." Sort of a damned if you don't and damned if you do, catch 22.
As far as looks, have you ever seen a Emo product in person? IMO, they look better in person where you can immediately see the superb build quality. The colors are actually black with silver trim and blue lights. I have replaced the silver end plates on my amp with black ones and I like the all black looks better. It is much more subtle than the McIntosh blue light show. My components are off to the side and the lights don't bother the video at all. My wife thinks the appearance is great and the blue lights are "wow, cool" (her own words). We both like black versus silver front panels.
Here are several comments on the ERC-1 from the Emo forum. This first one is from today.
".........I got my ERC-1 yesterday. It is the best sounding CD player I've ever heard. And I've owned many.....I just can't believe that it sounds sooooooooooo good. The ERC-1 replaced my Cambridge 650C. The Cambridge sounds a little edgy compared to the Emo......"
This is from several months back.
".....If you want to know about comparing expensive players to the ERC-1 here is my list. I have owned the following CD or SACD players and so far the ERC-1 is better player than those.
Sony SCD-1. A $5000 50lbs beast and supposed to be at the time the best SACD/CD player out there. The ERC-1 sounds more detailed and more involving than this player during redbook cd playing. Since the ERC-1 is not a SACD player I will not be able to make a comparison regarding SACD playing.
Marantz SA-1. This was Marantz first state of the art SACD player. At $7000 was supposed to be a true reference player. I think that the SA-1 was slightly better than the Sony SCD-1 in both SACD and CD playing but in Redbook CD playing the Emotiva ERC-1 is a more detailed and natural sounding CD player.
Denon 5910ci. A $3500 Universal player and while it was ok playing CDs or SACD's it does not justified the price. It is a great DVD player. No doubt about that but as a cd player it was just mediocre. The Emotiva ERC-1 will eat this unit for breakfast anytime at playing redbook cds.
Sony SCD-XA777ES. $3000 CD player. Very good player. In fact I founded to be better than the SCD-1 specially in Multichannel SACD playing. In Redbook Cd playing was much better than the Marantz but again the ERC-1 is a more detailed and involving cd player.
Sony SCD-XA9000ES . A $3500 SACD/CD player. Was supposed to be better than the SCD-XA777ES which it replaced,with better dacs but in my personal opinion the SCD-XA777ES was a better sounding unit. The SCD-XA777ES was a more neutral souding with better soundstage but not as good as the Emotiva ERC-1.
I can go on and on with the list of other cd players that I have owned previously and the ERC-1 still is a better cd player.
The only player that I have considered to be the best CD/SACD player so far is the Musical Fidelity Trivista. This player is such a detailed,natural and so involving cd player that I am yet to find a player that can sound this good. Its a $6500 CD player and I think it was worth every penny. It is also a Tube CD player so it will not be fair for me to make a fair comparison to the ERC-1. But the Emotiva ERC-1 is the closest player that has ever come to the Musical Fidelity Trivista while playing Redbook Cds.
The best way that I can described the ERC-1 is an amazing CD player that delivers enhanced linearity, dynamic range and distortion-free response in the most beautiful way possible.
The sound is so unbelievably crisp, so undeniably clear and so completely pristine, it will change the way you listen forever.
For Redbook CD playing I don't think that you will find a more involving and detailed sounding CD player under the $3000 price range.
This is the level of competition that the ERC-1 matches up to extremely well. When you stop to think that this Emotiva CDP is outperforming products that cost 15 to 20 times as much it becomes a "no brainer" as to which player offers the most BANG FOR THE BUCK!....."
Here's another posted on 9-19:
".....My Emo UPA-2 and ERC-1 arrived yesterday afternoon. When I got home I disconnected my old system—Cambridge 650A and 650C—and moved the UPA-2 and ERC-1 in. The ERC-1 is connected to an Audio Electronics AE-3 tube preamp and that in turn is connected to the UPA-2. I fired up the ERC-1. The sound is incredible! It is very detailed—so clean and clear and not too bright. I am very pleased with this tube preamp/SS combo! I am driving a pair of Polk TSi300 speakers. They’re not very expensive but the sound is fantastic with the Emo. And the bass is even deeper. It’s like I’ve got a new pair of speakers with the Emo......."
If you walked in off the street and looked at my ERC-1, (not knowing the brand or source), lifted it, looked at the remote, looked under the hood, before you even listened to it, there is no way on this planet that you would think it sold for under $1000 at the least.
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Originally Posted by RoadRunner6
I I have replaced the silver end plates on my amp with black ones and I like the all black looks better.
That's a really good idea, i'd be interested in seeing pics.
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Sony SCD-1. A $5000 50lbs beast and supposed to be at the time the best SACD/CD player out there. The ERC-1 sounds more detailed and more involving than this player during redbook cd playing. Since the ERC-1 is not a SACD player I will not be able to make a comparison regarding SACD playing.
Marantz SA-1. This was Marantz first state of the art SACD player. At $7000 was supposed to be a true reference player. I think that the SA-1 was slightly better than the Sony SCD-1 in both SACD and CD playing but in Redbook CD playing the Emotiva ERC-1 is a more detailed and natural sounding CD player.
Denon 5910ci. A $3500 Universal player and while it was ok playing CDs or SACD's it does not justified the price. It is a great DVD player. No doubt about that but as a cd player it was just mediocre. The Emotiva ERC-1 will eat this unit for breakfast anytime at playing redbook cds.
Sony SCD-XA777ES. $3000 CD player. Very good player. In fact I founded to be better than the SCD-1 specially in Multichannel SACD playing. In Redbook Cd playing was much better than the Marantz but again the ERC-1 is a more detailed and involving cd player.
Sony SCD-XA9000ES . A $3500 SACD/CD player. Was supposed to be better than the SCD-XA777ES which it replaced,with better dacs but in my personal opinion the SCD-XA777ES was a better sounding unit. The SCD-XA777ES was a more neutral souding with better soundstage but not as good as the Emotiva ERC-1.
Yeah right!. Where are the detailed reviews?
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Ok...I google the guy who said it sounded better than the Marantz. the way his system looked , it was very familiar to me. I knew that I had seen that room before. So I though about where I had seen that room and found it on audiogon. So just maybe there is some credibility there. Take a look at the two systems in that same room. The first with the Marantz, the second with the Emotiva. (Sorry, dont know how to post pictures)
http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/s/f/1251847514.jpg
http://s618.photobucket.com/albums/t...t=DSC01721.jpg
So this guy swapped all of his Marantz gear out for the Emotiva gear? Does the midfi out perform and sound better than the Hifi....something is fish here.
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I agree Frenchie, why would you swap out high end Marantz gear for Emotiva unless he has 2 systems and is using the Marantz on another system or he wanted more power or a multi channel amp.
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I agree Frenchie, why would you swap out high end Marantz gear for Emotiva unless he has 2 systems and is using the Marantz on another system or he wanted more power or a multi channel amp.
The system you are looking at are two systems....a hometheater and a two channel system....It just does not make sense. Here is his thread over on audiogon.
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr...keyw&zzmarantz
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That Marantz CDP is one of the most acclaimed CDP's on the market today. It cost $7000 big ones. It aint chump change
The control amp is another fine piece at $3200 hundred and the Marantz amp is another $4500. You telling me the Emotiva is a better system? Yeah right....The repo man paid that guy a visit!
HIs new gear...XPA-2====$799. RSP-2======$699 (discontinued) ERC-!======$399
So you telling me Marantz who has been making gear for about 60 years and this system costing at about $15.000.00 is no better than Emotiva who has been around less than 10 with this system costing $1.800.00 is better? Yeah right...the repo man came a calling.
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This is the only online review I could find of the guy and he does not mention Marantz at all. But he does mention some other very good gear.
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03-14-09: Nypr2003
I have just purchased from Emotiva the RSP-2 Preamp,XPA-2 stereo amp and their ERT-8.3 Reference Tower Speakers and after 5 days of breakin in the whole system all I can say is "WOW", "Unbelievable","REMARKABLE".
I used to own a Parasound Halo system consisting of their famous stereophile class A rated JC1 Monoblocks,their A51 5 channel amplifier,A21 Stereo amp and their C1 processor and I used to think that after trying the FPB Krell's and other High end amps or Preamps I though that there was nothing else better than the Halos within that price range over $15K plus.
I sold my system last year because of lack of time due to my job. I felt that there was no reason to keep such a nice system in my house since I was not using it. So I sold it here on Audiogon and decided that later on I will get more or less the same system when I have more time to be able to enjoy it.
Well the time is here now and I started looking to put together a very nice system again and the first thing that came to mind was Parasound Halo Line again. That was until I came across the Emotiva Products website.
I spent quite amount of time reading about their products specially their preamps and amps. I did a side by side comparison of the Parasound Halos amps and the Emotiva amps. The Emotiva amps seem to be much better amps than the Halos exept for the fact that the Halos are THX certified and used a MOSFET driver stage and JFET input stage as opposed to Emotiva using a Triple Darlington with ON semiconductor output stages. Besides the Emotiva amps offer more power than the Halos.
I know what most of you all will say. That's just in the specs! It's the sound that matters! Yes, you are right and I will get to that in a minute.
Being quite familiar with the Halos since I owned them for almost 2 years and was very happy with their warmth and neutral sound I think that qialifies me to make a very good comparison.
Now going back to the Emotiva RSP-2 Preamp and their XPA-2 stereo amplifier. As I said before after giving them around 5 days of a good break-in period of about 16 hours a day I decided to sit down for a good listening session.
First let me say that the RSP-2 is one of the most analog sounding preamps I have ever come across. In the past have auditioned or owned many Preamps such as ,BAT tube Preamps,Classe,Proceed,Parasound Halo,Rotel,Adcom,McIntosh and Musical Fidelity and none of these Preamps have sounded as analog as the Emotiva RSP-2 Preamp. How these people at Emotiva do it its beyond me. Besides being a great sounding preamp it is a beautiful unit. It has so many features that it is hard to believe that for the price of $699 you can get features that you can only get at Preamps costing over 3 to 6 times more. The performance of the Emotiva RSP-2 Preamp is so good that you can only get this kind of performance in preamps costing way over $3K+ or more. I highly recommend this Preamp. It's really that good. in fact I had my eyes set on a Parasound JC2 Preamp and I am so glad that I didn't buy. Now I am extremely happy with my Emotiva RSP-2.
Now the XPA-2 Stereo Amplifier. What a beautiful looking unit! The Sound? Oustanding! Warmth,Neutral,Extremely Analog Sounding.Not a hint of brightness. Powerfull! Powerfull Powerfull! It has the same sound as the Halos JC1's but with more extension and more dynamics of the FPB of the Krells and still analog sounding. Between the Emotiva RSP-2 Preamp and the XPA-2 Amp it is a marriage made in heaven. It's the perfect combination.
And the ERT-8.3. Reference Speakers. Do not let the price fool you. These speakers delivered one of the most natural and clear sounds that I have only be able to hear in speakers costing over $5K+. I have owned them so I know that it will be impossible to hear a pair of $1600 speakers sound this good. But how wrong I have been. These are truly Reference Speakers.The bass extension is remarkable.I don't even need a subwoofer.Emotiva rates these speakers at Frequency response: 45hz-20Khz +/-2db byt trust me these speakers go way lower than 45hz.
Emotiva is coming out with a new Reference CD player, the ERC-1 and I have put myself on their waiting list. I know that it will be an outstanding Cd player.
Emotiva has put together a "True Reference" Line of products that proves that you can still obtain "High End Performance" without paying "High End Prices". I used to be one of the many believers that had the mentality that you needed to pay top money to get a top high end performance equipment. Guess what? Not Any more.
Emotiva has proved me wrong and.. I Stand Corrected"
Best regards to all,
Carlos Reyes
Queens, New York.
Heres the link
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr...3&4&5#Nypr2003
This is unbelievable! How can they afford to sell this stuff for such a small price? I keep telling my self the wheels will come off sooner or later and we will find out the stuff only last a few years before it needs repair. It seems they are going to run every audio manufacturer out of business or force then to come down in price if this stuff catches on.
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Ok..its seems as if the guy swapped out the Emotiva for the Marantz. Check out the date of this latest posting.
Marantz Marantz SA-7S1 CD Player pic
Marantz SC-11S1 Preamplifier pic
Marantz SM-11S1 Amplifier pic
Tyler Acoustics Special Custom Made Lynbrooks Speaker pic
Acoustics Zen Silver Reference II 1m. XLR Interconnect
Acoustic Zen Matrix Reference II 1m. XR Interconnect
Acoustic Zen Satori Shotgun 10ft. Biwired Speaker cable
Marantz Reference and Pioneer Elite Systems
This is my Marantz Reference Series Two Channel Audio System and my Pioneer Elite Home Theater System. The speakers took about 2 months to be built because everything from the cabinets to the drivers were picked by me and they were installed and the cabinets made and finished by Tyler at Tyler Acoustics. They have been terminated and wired with Cardas wire internally and finished in biwired configuration with Cardas Binding posts. These are the first pair ever made with the 10" Seas Woofers
Each Speaker weights almost 200lbs and the specifications are
Frequency- 22-25K
Sensitivity-90db
Impedance-4 ohms
30-400 watts
Now my new System consists of
Two Channel System;
Marantz Reference Series SA-7S1 SACD Player
Marantz Reference Series SC-11S1 Preamplifer
Marantz Reference Series SM-11S1 Stereo Amplifier
Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II Interconnects 1meter
Acoustic Zen Matrix Referenc II Interconnects 1 meter
Acoustic Zen 10ft. Satory Shotgun Biwired Speaker cables
RGPC 400 Pro 6,000 watts Parallel power delivery
and my Home theater consists of:
Pioneer Elite Kuro Pro 151FD 60" Plasma TV
Pioneer Elite SC-07 Receiver
Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD Blue Ray Player
Motorola Dual Tuner HD DVR DHC3416 160g Cable Box
Selah Audio Center Channel with 8" Drivers
Elan THP650LS Front Channel Speakers Wall Mounted
Elan THP650SS Surround Speakers (4) for side an back
Elan THP1200SW 12" Powered Subwoofer
Monster Signature Series AVS2000 Voltage Stabilizer
Monster Signture Series HTPS7000 MKII Power Conditioner
My Best Regards to all,
Carlos
Nypr2003 (Threads | Answers)
09-01-09
Maybe the Emotiva did not have that high end sound after all.
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OK it seems this guy did in fact get rid of his Emotiva....all of it. I guess after the dust settled and cleared it had to go. Heres the thread. and the link.
http://emotivalounge.proboards.com/i...7&page=1#89010
*SOLD* FOR SALE EMOTIVA XPA-2 $650 SHIPPED
« Thread Started on Aug 8, 2009, 9:15pm »
I am selling my 4 months old Emotiva XPA-2 Stereo Amplifier.
AMP HAS BEEN SOLD
*THIS IS AN "A" STOCK XPA-2 PURCHASED BRAND NEW FROM EMOTIVA*
This amplifier is in "MINT" new condition since I take extremely good care of all my high end equipment. I have the original boxes and all the accessories that came with it from Emotiva.
The reason that I am selling this wonderful stereo amplifier is because I have changed my entired system and I have gone with an all Marantz Reference Series System consisting of the Marantz SA-7S1 SACD Player , the SC-11S1 Reference Control Amplifier and waiting on the SM-11S1 Stereo Power Amplifier.
I WILL SELL THE AMPLIFIER FOR $650 INCLUDING SHIPPING AND FULL INSURANCE WITHIN THE CONTINUOUS 48 STATES ONLY VIA FED EX GROUND SHIPPING.
I CAN ACCEPT A CERTIFIED CHECK OR MONEY ORDER BUT IF YOU ARE USING PAYPAL PLEASE ADD THE 3% FOR THEIR FEES. IF YOU SEND A CERTIFIED CHECK OR MONEY ORDER PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT I WILL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THEY CLEAR BEFORE SHIPPING THE AMP.
If you need to see my feedback on Audiogon as a seller and buyer of high end equipment please click on this link,
http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fb.pl?user=Nypr2003
Here are pictures of the XPA-2 amp in my system ,(The RSP-2 and the ERC-1 have already being SOLD)
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I've heard the Marantz Reference was good stuff. I haven't heard any of it except the $7k SACD, I'm talking about the very first one Marantz built when SACD was trying to get traction. I personally did not think the unit sounded like a $7k unit, a $3.5k Krell sounded better on Redbook.
I feel everyone's pain now who has tried to buy new components. We all say audition, but that is getting to be very difficult especially for those who want higher end. The only players on my list I could actually hear would be the NAD units and Rotel, if I was interested in Rotel. I like what I hear about the Creek "being musical" but I've heard it wasn't as "dynamic" as the NAD 565 or Cambridge 740/840. As much as I'd like to try a 740 or 840, I don't think I want to pay that much for a secondary player. What I might do is bring in an ERC-1 and then borrow a 565 and have a shoot out. It won't be scientific with level matching and all that but I've been doing well so far evaluating my gear in my own fashion. The 565 is getting up there in price but I like that USB feature. This could be handy if the unit ever ended up in my work out system.
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Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
I've heard the Marantz Reference was good stuff. I haven't heard any of it except the $7k SACD, I'm talking about the very first one Marantz built when SACD was trying to get traction. I personally did not think the unit sounded like a $7k unit, a $3.5k Krell sounded better on Redbook.
I feel everyone's pain now who has tried to buy new components. We all say audition, but that is getting to be very difficult especially for those who want higher end. The only players on my list I could actually hear would be the NAD units and Rotel, if I was interested in Rotel. I like what I hear about the Creek "being musical" but I've heard it wasn't as "dynamic" as the NAD 565 or Cambridge 740/840. As much as I'd like to try a 740 or 840, I don't think I want to pay that much for a secondary player. What I might do is bring in an ERC-1 and then borrow a 565 and have a shoot out. It won't be scientific with level matching and all that but I've been doing well so far evaluating my gear in my own fashion. The 565 is getting up there in price but I like that USB feature. This could be handy if the unit ever ended up in my work out system.
when was the first Marantz sacd built, 1999-2000? I think they may have come a long way sense then. There are many on the audioasylem forum who would differ from you. Then again its all subjective. Here a review on the newer units if you are intersted.
http://www.10audio.com/marantz_sa-7s1_cary_306pro.htm
http://www.10audio.com/marantz_ma-9s2.htm
Surprisingly he has not reviewed any Krell after a 138 reviews.
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Krell hasn't made a simple CD player in quite some time and the incident where Phillips sold a bunch of bad transports really hurt some of the independent companies like Krell. I really don't know how good there SACD players are. Some may disagree but in the last ten years I feel there hasn't been huge gains in digital playback. Around 2k there were starting to appear 24 bit players and I really haven't seen any large improvements once every one got to that level. I know of some players made 10 years ago I'd still love to have. In fact, my Conrad Johnson DAC is at least that old and not 24 bit and it holds it's own very well against players from today.
If anything improved over these years to make Marantz sound better it's the SACD software. The dealer here in town doesn't seem to sell much of their disc players compared to other brands they handle. But once you get into the price range of T+A, Marantz don't have a chance. Oddly, the NAD M5 seemed to be the seller in the 8003 range. As everything else I guess it comes down to what comparisons are made and taste. This is also just one store. It would be interesting to get some sales figures from some place like Audio Advisor or Musicdirect to see which brand does better. Also, things seem to spread on forums. One person say they like something and it catches on. Blackraven did a side by side with Cambridge 840 and Marantz 8003, he preferred the 840. So regardless of fanboy rumors in the end you have to trust your ears.
Frenchmon we aren't that far in distance any more so we will have to do some listening some day. I'm not really as big of a snob as I sound :)
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Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
I've heard the Marantz Reference was good stuff. I haven't heard any of it except the $7k SACD, I'm talking about the very first one Marantz built when SACD was trying to get traction. I personally did not think the unit sounded like a $7k unit, a $3.5k Krell sounded better on Redbook.
I feel everyone's pain now who has tried to buy new components. We all say audition, but that is getting to be very difficult especially for those who want higher end. The only players on my list I could actually hear would be the NAD units and Rotel, if I was interested in Rotel. I like what I hear about the Creek "being musical" but I've heard it wasn't as "dynamic" as the NAD 565 or Cambridge 740/840. As much as I'd like to try a 740 or 840, I don't think I want to pay that much for a secondary player. What I might do is bring in an ERC-1 and then borrow a 565 and have a shoot out. It won't be scientific with level matching and all that but I've been doing well so far evaluating my gear in my own fashion. The 565 is getting up there in price but I like that USB feature. This could be handy if the unit ever ended up in my work out system.
"..........It won't be scientific with level matching and all that .........."
...And you have the nerve to criticize other's evaluations? You're going to do an A/B comparison without even bothering to level match the components, what a phony audiophile! How much credibility do you think your evaluation merits?
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