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    Quote Originally Posted by markw
    Ultimately, in spite of all the whining about the inadequacies of the test, the simple fact is that the different results between sighted and blind listening, even for preference only, is very, very telling.

    Wiggle all you want. There ain't no escaping that simple fact.
    Does it tell us anyone with one wit of logic would not already know. Most audio shoppers are male - most males shop with their eyes - in every aspect of life males are visually motivated - in women we choose, sleek car lines, and audio equipment certainly would not be different. We're also ego driven - more money makes the man - certainly true of Money first capitalist countries - namely but certainly not limited to Americans.and Asian countries which are communist in name only but follow capitalism more than Americans could ever dream of. Compared to where I live in China - America is pure socialism!

    No one needs a blind test to illustrate these truths. What a blind test does not prove is that A and B sound the same, it does not prove anything "outside" the test environment specifically.

    For instance you could listen to A and B (Whatever product) sighted and prefer A and then blind fail to choose A - if the test mattered a damn then when you went back to sighted you would "believe" they sounded the same. But if you still prefer A then you're stuck because the REAL valid usual experience is sighted - and if A you deem better to you then it's better to you and you buy it. DBT's in audio score real low points in the area of validity - it is 100% irrifutable psychologuically true - the engineers may not get it but they're not scientists and there are so many holes in their 16 trial test that is laughable to anyone with a grade 9 science education. The test is great - the conclusions drawn are astoundingly bad.

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    Hee hee...

    [QUOTE=RGA]Does it tell us anyone with one wit of logic would not already know. Most audio shoppers are male - most males shop with their eyes - in every aspect of life males are visually motivated - in women we choose, sleek car lines, and audio equipment certainly would not be different.

    I can remember bringing a few friends to Audio Den here on Long Island, (still there...audioden.com) when they had a much smaller store at their beginning. $h!t... going back almost 30 years. My friend Joe Low (yup... his real name... try telling that to the Police) looking at the window display, and said: "I like those"!

    He was referring to an early Polk, not sure of the model no., 10C maybe? about a 10" drone on the bottom, two side-by-side 6" or so mid-woofs, and a tweeter on top. He didn't even listen to 'em yet!

    Actually, they did sound pretty good at the time, but...

    Yes, we shop with our eyes.

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