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    Quote Originally Posted by Woochifer
    And how much does that transport cost? Is it within the poster's $500 budget? With the receiver's bass management requiring a redundant A-D/D-A conversion, I doubt that any improvement rendered by a fancy transport would be that noticeable on his system anyway.

    Let's not forget, if you're not dropping 5-figures, it's not "real" equipment.

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    You guys suck, i only meant it for educational value. Stop attacking me, its getting boring. I know that for his system it wont do any good, but its better to tell him so he knows it for the future when goes to a higher realm. Some people upgrade you know
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    Quote Originally Posted by Florian
    You guys suck, i only meant it for educational value. Stop attacking me, its getting boring. I know that for his system it wont do any good, but its better to tell him so he knows it for the future when goes to a higher realm. Some people upgrade you know
    ...condescending, paranoid twit?

    Wooch poses a simple question and THAT"S an attack...

    "Higher realm"...They have CDPs in heaven(that's of course assuming such a place exists)?

    Boring???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florian
    You guys suck, i only meant it for educational value. Stop attacking me, its getting boring. I know that for his system it wont do any good, but its better to tell him so he knows it for the future when goes to a higher realm. Some people upgrade you know
    Man oh man, someone's been crying in his cereal this morning!

    Educational value? Or ego gratification? Puleez

    No one's attacking you, only pointing out the absurdity of trying to move the topic over to CD transports that cost upwards of $5k+, when the original poster's total budget for his upgrade is $500. If you already know that for his system it won't do any good, then why bring it up?

    And in fact, you're contradicting yourself, since you said that we could "take any dac and try a Toshiba DVD player and a CEC X1 Transport" and hear a difference. Well, why not try the fancy transport with the DACs inside the Denon? (Or do those not qualify under your definition of "any dac"? Since you're now on record as saying that you "know that for his system it wont do any good," I guess you're now looking for new hobbies?

    You talk about "higher realm" ... well, where do you think the poster's trying to go by asking us how he can upgrade his CD playback for $500? He wants advice for an upgrade that he's pondering right now. You're "educating" him about an upgrade that in all likelihood he won't ever make (or even see the value of).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woochifer
    Man oh man, someone's been crying in his cereal this morning!

    Educational value? Or ego gratification? Puleez

    No one's attacking you, only pointing out the absurdity of trying to move the topic over to CD transports that cost upwards of $5k+, when the original poster's total budget for his upgrade is $500. If you already know that for his system it won't do any good, then why bring it up?

    And in fact, you're contradicting yourself, since you said that we could "take any dac and try a Toshiba DVD player and a CEC X1 Transport" and hear a difference. Well, why not try the fancy transport with the DACs inside the Denon? (Or do those not qualify under your definition of "any dac"? Since you're now on record as saying that you "know that for his system it wont do any good," I guess you're now looking for new hobbies?

    You talk about "higher realm" ... well, where do you think the poster's trying to go by asking us how he can upgrade his CD playback for $500? He wants advice for an upgrade that he's pondering right now. You're "educating" him about an upgrade that in all likelihood he won't ever make (or even see the value of).
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    You might think about moving your music to the computer, and using an external DAC. I did, and now I never use my CD player -- which is fine, because it's completely outdated.

    And I'll never have to worry about having another outdated CD player again (which is an inevitability if you buy one now). Once you're on a computer, all you have to do is upgrade your DAC, essentially. And in a few years (or sooner), DACs equivalent to or better than the Benchmark DAC1 will cost less than $500.
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    I never twisted the tread to transports. In fact i recommended a DAC which is very good indeed. I never mentioned something about 5K for him. I simply said that a Transport is important too and for the future he might upgrade it since some people just say its not important. You guys need to get a life instead of bashing me for having expensive equipment.

    The next time i will recommend NAD cdplayer and axiom speakers with ultracables.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Florian
    I never twisted the tread to transports. In fact i recommended a DAC which is very good indeed. I never mentioned something about 5K for him. I simply said that a Transport is important too and for the future he might upgrade it since some people just say its not important. You guys need to get a life instead of bashing me for having expensive equipment.
    The transport that you brought up costs $5,500, so you indeed did mention something in that price range. You twisted the thread when you talked about how anyone should be able to hear a difference between transports using ANY DAC. I simply pointed out a contradiction in the points you were making, since you admitted that using that receiver, an upgraded transport wouldn't do any good. Well, that receiver has DACs inside, right? And did say that transports would produce audible differences with ANY DAC, right?

    As usual, you try to presume that we're somehow attacking you because you own expensive equipment, when in fact, you're getting called out for making contradictory comments that are irrelevant to the topic at hand. Even with your expensive equipment, you haven't shown an ability to stay on topic and stay consistent with your comments, only self-aggrandizing and ego-gratification under the guise of "educating" people.

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