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    Ajani
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    Quote Originally Posted by E-Stat
    In my experience, there really isn't any such thing. I certainly don't claim to have an superior hearing abilities. Gradually with aging, the top range of mine is beginning to roll off around 14k or so.

    As I mentioned, I think it is all about training and long term exposure. I was hoping someone would at least try the link. I'm not saying there is but a single way to hear things, but I suspect that for this exercise, anyone could improve their score with a little coaching as to what they should be listening for.

    When I began to get exposed to better gear in my late teens, I lived for hearing deeper into my favorite music. With some help from more experienced guys, I was able to better appreciate that which is there.

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    I agree.... I tried the link and the first time got the average score.... I tried it again later with a better idea of what I was listening for (I followed your approach and used only a small portion of the audio - specifically the music and not the vocals)... The second time I substanially improved my score (early 20s - nowhere near 30 or 36 - but much better than my initial 12)...

    The test did raise some intriguing questions for me:

    EDIT: 1) Are distortions in vocals less obvious than distortions in other sounds? And if so, then why?

    2) Since it appears that we can actually train ourselves to become more sensitive to distortions and subtle musical differences (become audiophiles), the question arises of whether it's a goal we should really aim to achieve... I found that when I was listening critically in the test, I wasn't paying any real attention to the song, I was just looking for distortions... Kind of like having a beautiful woman beside you and spending all your time focusing on a small blemish on her ankle....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajani
    ... and used only a small portion of the audio - specifically the music and not the vocals)... The second time I substanially improved my score...
    I found the most telling way was to listen to the guitar. Just after she sings "car", there is a crisp two step transient chord. The more distorted it is, the "fatter" and less crisp they sound. More muddled. At the first three high distortion levels, however, you can tell after hearing the first two seconds.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ajani
    1) Are distortions in vocals more obvious than distortions in other sounds?
    In this case, I would say no. I heard very little in the way of harmonic content with Tracy's voice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ajani
    2) Since it appears that we can actually train ourselves to become more sensitive to distortions and subtle musical differences (become audiophiles), the question arises of whether it's a goal we should really aim to achieve...
    Not as an end goal, but I find that the ability to find little sonic jewels in musical pieces lends depth to the overall enjoyment.

    Do you have Dido's first album No Angel? There is a neat little synthesized riff that first appears at 0:32, again at 0:43 and repeats a couple of times every three seconds before Dido begins singing. It is a "springy" little sound that goes kinda like "boint".

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    Ajani
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    Quote Originally Posted by E-Stat
    I found the most telling way was to listen to the guitar. Just after she sings "car", there is a crisp two step transient chord. The more distorted it is, the "fatter" and less crisp they sound. More muddled. At the first three high distortion levels, however, you can tell after hearing the first two seconds.
    For the first three, you really don't even need to compare the two audio samples... the distorted ones just sound awful...

    Quote Originally Posted by E-Stat
    In this case, I would say no. I heard very little in the way of harmonic content with Tracy's voice.
    Sorry about that, I meant to type 'less' and not 'more'... I found it easier to hear distortions in the instruments, like the guitar you mentioned, than to hear any in Tracy's voice. Actually, there is another test on that site using just vocals.... it seems to be much more difficult... you should try it out to see if you find vocals more challenging...

    Quote Originally Posted by E-Stat
    Not as an end goal, but I find that the ability to find little sonic jewels in musical pieces lends depth to the overall enjoyment.
    I guess a balance between hearing detail that we normally miss and being overly critical of every bit of distortion in the music is the best way to go... The reason I fell in love with Monitor Audio Gold Speakers and to a lesser extent Final Sound Speakers was because they both revealed a few seconds of magic in the opening 30 seconds of Billie Jean... Now anytime I audition speakers, I find myself listening for that magic again.

    Quote Originally Posted by E-Stat
    Do you have Dido's first album No Angel? There is a neat little synthesized riff that first appears at 0:32, again at 0:43 and repeats a couple of times every three seconds before Dido begins singing. It is a "springy" little sound that goes kinda like "boint".

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    I have that album. What track does the riff occur on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajani
    I guess a balance between hearing detail that we normally miss and being overly critical of every bit of distortion in the music is the best way to go...
    Well, while this test used added distortion, what I normally seek is the opposite - more musical detail!

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    I have that album. What track does the riff occur on?
    Duh, that would help wouldn't it? Honestly Ok. Deep in the mix, there's also a strange synthesized vocal sound.

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