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    This one's for you - He notes what you don't like about Peter - the way he bashes you over the head.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by RGA View Post
    Mr. P

    This one's for you - He notes what you don't like about Peter - the way he bashes you over the head.'
    There have always been a few people like that in audio - rather verbose and arrogant in presenting their opinions. PQ reminds me of Irving "Bud" Fried from years gone by.

    The similarities are rather strong - didn't invent much of anything on his own (Fried's first venture into audio was as importer of Lowther & Quad in the late 50s), but he sure knew how to attach his name to the products of others. He also never hesitated to give you his strong opinion about a subject. I recall reading his newsletters in the 60s and 70s.

    The only drawback of this personality type is that they inevitably leaves a substantial percentage of the market with an opinion so negative that they can't hear the person even if they have a good point about an issue, product or design.

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    I suppose it depends on what you view as to what people do at a company. Engineers are the people you hire to get the thing you want made. Doesn't really mean they have the vision or are the best at creating the concept. I don't know much about Fried but it seems to me Peter wants X sound and hires the people who can deliver what it is that he wants.

    I do agree with your other point though that if a person has such a negative view of the person they will tune him out even when he raises valid points. I would go one further - they will also have a negative view of said person's products going into auditions. They will likely go in looking for negatives rather than being balanced. The latter is more damaging I should think to sales.

    But hey I had people on forums so pissed off at me that they said they would never ever audition an Audio Note product because of what I said on forums. So even the "fan-boys" as I am called can damage sales.

    On the other hand Peter e-mailed me and said he doesn't give a rat's ass about selling gear to people with that mentality and since he can't meet the demand losing sales here or there isn't big deal.

    I asked him awhile ago - why don;t you make a tuner - they make the complete chain after all - his reply was "we do make a tuner"

    What? Why don't you put it on the website?

    His reply - "because then we'd have to sell them."

    He's actually quite a nice guy in person - he believes his stuff is the best - but then that's not a terrible thing in a company owner. And he does believe it - I can handle a guy who thinks his stuff is best - and he believes it than a guy who just says it but deep down knows it isn't.

    I feel this way about athletes like I do about audio makers - you're not arrogant if you bring the game (got game).

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    At the end of the day people should just buy what they like. Dont bother with the politics or other people. People who can actually buy products in the price ranges of Kondos, AN, Mark Levinson etc... are not moved by forum comments anyway. Happy listening
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    Quote Originally Posted by Florian View Post
    At the end of the day people should just buy what they like. Dont bother with the politics or other people. People who can actually buy products in the price ranges of Kondos, AN, Mark Levinson etc... are not moved by forum comments anyway. Happy listening
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    Correct those people with deep products hardly rely on forums/reviews (hopefully) - but AN isn't priced "just" at those prices and review publications would not be there reviewing $20k+ gear if no one was reading them. So I suspect there is still influence both pro and con.






    As an aside so as to not start a new thread - I recently said how much I liked the ATC 150 and what do you know someone comes out with an AN E review comparing his own reference ATC 40. What he says would be about the same as what I would say comparing the ATC 150 AN Affair of the Heart – Audio Note AN-e/LX | Hifi Pig

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