Worst Sequel of all Time

[Lexmark3200]

"Yes it was as bad as the press it received"

No it was not.

"it is one of the worst pieces of crap ever filmed and deserved it's all around lambasting."

Thats a pretty professionally polished comment coming from someone who has an "official film rating system that we should all go by" for this site......I disagree, however. It was compelling in the fact that the series came full circle back to Stallone's neighborhood and ended with a hand to hand street fight, which Balboa was most known for in his days of club fighting.

"Most critics hated part 3 and 4 as well - and a great many didn't even like part 2. Part 5 had the visual look of a made for tv epiosode and Sly was especially poor"

Lets just begin with the fact that I dont believe any of these were meant to be taken too seriously, I dont, once again, put stock in these "critics" you keep bringing up-----cinema is an art form and enjoys the availability of having the opportunity to be judged, "criticized" and found to be apprehensible or enjoyed by ANYONE so really.....who cares what these critics say? Its who LIKES the films at the end of the day personally. You dont; I do. Pretty much end of case.

"That's fine most people think it's crap and I'm in the most people camp on this one."

Sure, but sure as **** not diehard Carpenter fans or horror enthusiasts who knew a good sequel when they laid eyes on one-----people, again, just DONT UNDERSTAND Rick Rosenthal's decisions on this one.

"You're right that he is no Carpenter who did not want another one made - and John was right. The original Halloween ended perfectly with a menacing open ending -- There was no need to make another film except to make a profit."

Then what would have been the point of having Myers gone after Loomis shoots him with the piano score by Alan Howarth and Carpenter playing?

"Well it's always opinion but I'm sorry IMO part 3 was written for ten year old boys - it is moronically juvenile and I can't see anyone liking this piece of crap over the orriginal -- for some it must all be about the quality of the special effects - and most serious film scholars probably would not be talking about any of the Terminator films other than the first one which is by far the smartest as science fiction and most RAW of the three. It's special effects don't hold up well - I believe it was stop motion animation and filmed on 1.5 million budget. I know some people like part 2(the extended edition) better and I can grant them that because it has more of an epic scope than the first but part 3??? Man."

Granted, it is not enjoyed by diehard Terminator fans, and I am saying that I am in this camp----Im not a Terminator fan and enjoyed THREE on its own. Let me tell you something, whether you believe this story or not (it's true)......I interviewed Jonathan Mostow for HOME THEATER MAGAZINE and he told me that he enjoys the fact that this third part CAN sit by itself on its own to appeal to ACTION FILM fans without being "loyal" to the franchise in general.....the DIRECTOR told me this, so part of the ridiculousness you accuse this film of having was intentional by Mostow because he was out to create an over the top action set piece which could be enjoyed by non diehard fans of the entire franchise....HE believes the film can and was meant to kind of stand on its own.

"Nothing wrong with Keaton until he had to utter the atrocious lines the writers gave him."

Perhaps this MAY be the case, yet on the surface I disagree.

"The Dialogue with Vicky Vale and Keaton in the Bat Cave is some of the most atrocious dialiogue I have had the misfortune of listening to. Her character and performance was atrocious."

What EXACTLY were you LOOKING FOR here in these scenes? Did you EXPECT Bassinger to actually CARRY these sequences for some reason?

"I was not overly thrilled with the visual style of any of the first 4 of these films -- especially compared to Batman Begins which is so vastly superior to the lot it's not even a contest."

Cant comment because I didnt yet see Batman Begins, believe that or not.

"And to be honest I'd rather watch the Cult classic hilariously silly Original 1966 Batman Movie starring the pot-bellied Adam West as Batman. At least the dialogue was Intentionally inane."

Oh pluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee........ .

[steamboy 2]

Most of the friday the 13th's & halloween's 3 through 6 & the last one & also most of the nightmare on elem st.'s

[Lexmark3200]

Ruh oh........You guys found me out. Okay(gulp) I am guilty as hell. I was the reason he got banned. I know I shouldn't have done it(a small tear swells up in me eye). Here is the story about that dreaded thread. Come on....gather around.


Okay(double gulp) During a equipment failure break on a recording I was working on, I got on the internet and just started surfing. I guess I was looking for another website to contribute to(I knew you guys were getting sick of me). I ran across hometheaterdiscussion.com. I didn't mean to do it, but I did. On my first day after registering, I came across a thread containing a movie review on a movie that I did the sound in the film. The review was VERY harsh on the sound of the DVD, and it contained some judgements a so called facts that were just not accurate. Okay, all of you who have known me over the years know that I don't let nothing like that escape me. I went out, purchased the DVD, and analyzed the sound through Sound Forge(thanks Sony), and listened to it through my system, and rebutted his review with facts. Well, I'll say this, I have never been cussed out online like that in my life. But I never personally attacked back, I just stuck with the facts. The more calm I remained, the more he cussed me out. Other members tried to calm DJ Scotty down, but to no avail. Finally the site owner closed the thread and banned DJ Scotty. He also sent me a PM apologizing for his behavior and asking me to remain with the forum. It was all good to me, as his cussing didn't hurt me, I am totally insensitive to being cussed out, I grew up in New York City, everyone cussed someone out there!

The people at that website are so cool. I still to this day do not know why he was so angry. Did I attack him personally at any time during the discussion? NO, not one time. What I did do was challenge him in his own backyard which I am sure hurt his ego a bit. But this wasn't about him, it was about his information which was bogus.

I hope he stays here and continues to do his reviews. My hope is he will really hone his craft, be more open for crititsizm as this is an open forum, and when you put your views out there, be ready(and educated enough)to support those views with fact, not opinion.(dang that was a long sentence)
Shorten them, get to the point(any editor would tell you that) and don't give away too much(you'll take away the interest in seeing the movie). Know your stuff, recognize when then film was made, and compare to the movies made in that period, not was is made today. Know your DVD audio formats. Know the bitrate of the DD or Dts track, and do more background on the aspect ratios, so you can be sure of what you write(I use the Pandora box aspect measurement software).

If he did these things, his reviewing skills would be off the chart. He has a passion for this, and I would like to encourage him to continue. Just be more open.

I have said all of this in the true spirit of brotherhood, peace on earth, and goodwill towards my fellow man. No malice, no hate, no insult, and no personal attack is intended.

Thank you, and good night!!

Terrence,

With all your laboring to pretend you were being kind I KNEW who was responsible for that incident on the other site as I was TOLD by Ray Cruz; and I was also told that it WAS purposely done.....it didnt matter to me, because as I told them when I wanted to come back (after Ray told me it was you who started all the problems purposely), I also told them that on second thought I wasnt going to because I became senior disc reviewer for another site in the interim (NOT this site); your secret is really no secret, and indeed I told Ray and administration on the other site EXACTLY your reasons for coming in there, what you were going to do and indeed you did it; these character flaws were told to me by Ray Cruz to be "unfortunate" and that he was "sad to see me go" but he was well aware of what kind of individual you were; there were no secrets there, my friend.

I continue writing reviews at any rate for multiple publications and multiple sites.

Enjoy your evening!

[ericl]

RGA and Lexmark3200's food fight has been moved to the Steel Cage.
It's still active because i can't bear to split you two up.
Keep it there fellas, or else there will be no more DVD reviewing or AudioNote praising!
RGA vs Lexmark -- was: Worst Sequel of all Time

Please keep this thread on the topic of stinker sequels!

Speaking of which, I saw that the Sci-Fi channel played all of the "Tremors" series this weekend. Man, I didn't know they made any sequels, but they made three sequels! how goofy is that? I wanted to check them out, but didn't get to watch them. I remember lauging my ass off with my buddy watching the first one, geez, the next THREE must have been painful!

-eric

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Terrence,

With all your laboring to pretend you were being kind I KNEW who was responsible for that incident on the other site as I was TOLD by Ray Cruz; and I was also told that it WAS purposely done.....it didnt matter to me, because as I told them when I wanted to come back (after Ray told me it was you who started all the problems purposely), I also told them that on second thought I wasnt going to because I became senior disc reviewer for another site in the interim (NOT this site); your secret is really no secret, and indeed I told Ray and administration on the other site EXACTLY your reasons for coming in there, what you were going to do and indeed you did it; these character flaws were told to me by Ray Cruz to be "unfortunate" and that he was "sad to see me go" but he was well aware of what kind of individual you were; there were no secrets there, my friend.

I continue writing reviews at any rate for multiple publications and multiple sites.

Enjoy your evening!

I am taking this to the food fight section....it doesn't belong here.