and I'm Lost all over again....

[ForeverAutumn]

I think that there has to be some sort of interaction with the Swan Station and the outside world. Not only are the washer and dryer obviously new, but when Hurley was taking inventory of the food he said that there was enough food to feed one man three meals a day for three months. Desmond had been there for three years. I find it hard to believe that he started with a three year food supply! And what would happen to him when he ran out of food in three months? Someone still has a vested interest in making sure that button gets pushed. And that someone is supplying the Station with food and other necessities.

Guess I nailed that one, huh? An air drop of food to the island. Very interesting indeed. Was the lockdown to ensure that whoever is in the hatch can't get outside to see where the food is coming from?

WHO IS HENRY GALE???????
(both of them)

There definately has to be some sort of connection between Sawyer and Locke's father. That they are both conmen is way too coincidental. There are no coincidence's on Lost.

And how about Locke's legs getting stuck under the wall. Okay, first of all, you managed to lift the wall with a crowbar earlier, so why didn't Henry just try to do it again so that Locke could slide out? I understand that he's injured but they didn't try very hard to free Locke IMO. The first thing that I though of when that door came down on Locke's legs was that you can't cheat Fate. Locke couldn't walk before he got to the island. Maybe his fate is to not be able to walk and he's cheating fate now by walking. I wonder how long that will last? ...a little foreshadowing by the writers here, perhaps?

And last but certainly not least....what the hell was on the wall! And why did it appear? Did it have anything to do with the food drop? All that I could make out clearly in the short time that they showed it was a question mark right in the middle. And because Lost fanatics are, indeed, fanatics...no time was wasted in posting a screen print of it on-line. Here's the link, http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x17/blastDoorMap.jpg.

Edit: It looks like a map of the six Dharma stations with an arrow saying "I Am Here" pointing to the Swan. But the big question is...what's that question mark in the middle. And....what are all the little notations around the map. We need a closer look!

[Kam]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh minkey!!! that was a good one! nice call on the food drop, i am sure one of my 4,000 theories will soon come to fruition now!

that screenshot is great, the center of the island.... the group is closest to the swan station, they found two other stations... so now all the translations will being as to what he has written... so the "i am here" is pretty obvious... and am guessing not desmond, would he have ben there long enough to compile that much information? maybe the guy desmind worked with in the hatch (forgot his name already)...
and.. right above the "cu" of cubit... does that say "Possible CV II - inactive since accident" somebody has definitely been busy.... great... now am gonna stare at this all night. THANKS!


well them not pushing the wall back up i could understand with locke's obsession on the button, that would take priority over wasting any time to get the wall up off of him.

great episode, really liked it, and really interesting with the henry gale reveal at the end and, even more importantly... NEW EPISODE AGAIN NEXT WEEK!!!! wooohooo!!!

[Kam]

henry gale: the oz analogy continues to a T (i think). the wizard lands in oz and takes on the personna of the wizard. this guy lands on the island and takes on the personna of henry gale of minnesota. the question is... why? is he an Other? that might be too easy, but then again, given how difficult they've made the show, maybe they're due for a 'gimme'. but i doubt it. is he something else? do we have yet another faction on the island? and... could he possibly be related to roussea's party? she was adamant to sayid that he would be lying. she KNEW in her eyes that he would lie for a long time before sayid got to the truth.. now why would she know that? (yes, i know she's crazy and that could be a part of it too, but crazy people are like animals, they can tell when someone is truthful or not) (ok that was horrible to say, but i think i read it somewhere)

[ForeverAutumn]

Who is Nadia? This was the woman that Locke was talking to after inspecting her home. He said something about her and her husband getting a nice house and she responded along the lines of, "if I had a husband...".

Everyone over at Lost-TV is freaking out over seeing Nadia. Am I supposed to know who she is? She's important enough to get a screen cap.... http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x17/nadia.jpg

Oh yeah...the planes that flew over the hotel when Locke was entering and exiting were both Oceanic planes. Big surprise! hehehe.

[Kam]

Who is Nadia? This was the woman that Locke was talking to after inspecting her home. He said something about her and her husband getting a nice house and she responded along the lines of, "if I had a husband...".

Everyone over at Lost-TV is freaking out over seeing Nadia. Am I supposed to know who she is? She's important enough to get a screen cap.... http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x17/nadia.jpg

Oh yeah...the planes that flew over the hotel when Locke was entering and exiting were both Oceanic planes. Big surprise! hehehe.

hmmmm the name doesnt ring a bell... but she could be another tangent relation to someone on the island... has anyone had an 'almost wife'... and where is locke again in the states? arizona?

[Kam]

Oh yeah...the planes that flew over the hotel when Locke was entering and exiting were both Oceanic planes. Big surprise! hehehe.

yeap... and there were two that landed, and they made a point of showing both... landing just a few minutes apart...maybe to let us know there is another oceanic flight? another island? no... no i'm stopping the madness right there!

[ForeverAutumn]

right above the "cu" of cubit... does that say "Possible CV II - inactive since accident" somebody has definitely been busy.... great... now am gonna stare at this all night. THANKS!

It's hard to know what that says. The last word being "accident" makes sense, but when I look at it I think that it could be "occasion" also. The creaters are very smart. They knew that we would be all over that map like a bunch of hungry Losties on a food drop!

Edit: I just discovered that I can enlarge the image. That definately says what Kam suggests. And in the top left-hand corner is the word "incident". My guess is that at some point, we'll get another glimpse of this map with some of the images a little clearer. I think that we're on a "need to know" basis here and we're only gonna get little bits of this at a time.

[ForeverAutumn]

What was the name of the woman that Sayid was supposed to kill but instead helped escape? Was that Nadia?

[Kam]

What was the name of the woman that Sayid was supposed to kill but instead helped escape? Was that Nadia?

ooooooooooooo i just got chills!! you're right!!! that's her!!!

[kexodusc]

ooooooooooooo i just got chills!! you're right!!! that's her!!!

Ok, that's 2 excellent back-to-back episodes with a promising 3rd one next week.

What the heck did we just see?

Was the drop package related to the delayed pressing of the button? (I believe the sirens had expired before Gale pressed it, the lights went ultraviolet and we say that cool map).

That map that Henry drew for Sayid and gang, anyone have a shot of that? I have a feeling we could superimpose it over the glowy wall map. Who draws a perfect map, anyway? Was that wall map radiation or something?

That Henry guy knows something, alright. I don't think he's on Other, but maybe he's after the same thing they are though?

So there's 4 discovered stations, and 2 missing ones? In an octagon? I'm stumped.

Season 2 has definitely passed Season 1 in terms of coolness now.

So let's recap...we've got a crashed ship (Rousseau's), a 2nd crashed ship (The Black Pearl) a crashed balloon, a crashed plane (two if you count Mr. Echo's brother's plane) so far all on that island. How did Desmond get there again?

[Kam]

well the only thing i picked up from the announcement on the intercom system was a countdown with the woman's voice. after the countdown, the walls dropped. i thought i picked up something along the lines of "everyone proceed to..." something-or-other. and then the countdown and then the "lockdown" ("lockedown"). then, (as fake-henry said) everything went dark for 10 seconds and then the lights came on. now there are certain inks that will only show up under blacklight, so it wasnt anything radiation related (i dont think, also see the Gone in 60 Seconds with nick cage, when they write the car names on the wall so it shows up with the blacklight). and i dont think that that was put there by dharma, but by one of the inhabitants of the hatch trying to figure things out.... (ala desmond) or, who knows. haha.

desmond, if i remember correctly, was on some worldwide catamaran type trip when his ship struck the island in a storm. some sort of solo-sail-around-the-world type deal.

the drop is interesting because noone heard a plane pass over the island. fine it was dark, so they wouldnt see it if it was flying with lights out, but it would still make noise? unless it wasnt a jet plane? the other big news is then... dharma is going on in "our" world here away from the island. it couldnt be entirely automated right? someone flew that plane and dropped the supplies. i'd have to say this is WAY more intricate than the stanford prison experiment.

[Kam]

ooooooooooooo i just got chills!! you're right!!! that's her!!!

wait... he helped two women in iraq i thought? or maybe it was just one. but i know he was helping the cia or whoeever in australia to get the information as to where nadia was. that was why he was on that plane, he was heading to the US to see her. but i cant remember if that was the same insurgent woman who he was supposed to torture but helped escape, or if nadia was his longtime love who he knew before that girl?

[Resident Loser]

...an astrophysicist named Henry Gale...and it was Dorothy's uncle's name, not the 'zardoz's...the old hob-nobber was Professor Marvel...

Given Locke's position and the fact that one of the doors' pins or spikes was embedded in his leg, I doubt he would have been in any position to provide the strength or leverage to raise it...

Who was the food drop for? Them or the others? Done with a glider?

Maybe Fake Henry didn't do anything...Wasn't it dark at that point? I mean those older CRT screens with few illuminated characters and a black or green background don't provide a lot of ambient lighting to really see the keyboard...add to that the panic factor...perhaps since the food drop and the door drop may have been connected, the test subjects would have been unable to enter the code and there is an auto reset for such an eventuality...all the PA noise and flashing lights might be a Dharma red herring to cover the fact, causing the occupants to surmise all the fireworks essentially re-booted the systems, to think no further, to simply count their lucky stars and to follow their directive re: code entry...of course that raises the question as to why it would be necessary to keep volunteers to the project in the dark, as it were, during a scheduled drop. That doesn't make sense...if you are of a mind to re-supply, shouldn't someone on the island have an idea of where to find the delivery?

Was the plane shot down? Was it hit by a supply delivery rocket? Is it all Fed-ex's fault?

jimHJJ(...will Hurley hurl from the rocks?...)

[GMichael]

...an astrophysicist named Henry Gale...and it was Dorothy's uncle's name, not the 'zardoz's...the old hob-nobber was Professor Marvel...

Given Locke's position and the fact that one of the doors' pins or spikes was embedded in his leg, I doubt he would have been in any position to provide the strength or leverage to raise it...

Who was the food drop for? Them or the others? Done with a glider?

Maybe Fake Henry didn't do anything...Wasn't it dark at that point? I mean those older CRT screens with few illuminated characters and a black or green background don't provide a lot of ambient lighting to really see the keyboard...add to that the panic factor...perhaps since the food drop and the door drop may have been connected, the test subjects would have been unable to enter the code and there is an auto reset for such an eventuality...all the PA noise and flashing lights might be a Dharma red herring to cover the fact, causing the occupants to surmise all the fireworks essentially re-booted the systems, to think no further, to simply count their lucky stars and to follow their directive re: code entry...of course that raises the question as to why it would be necessary to keep volunteers to the project in the dark, as it were, during a scheduled drop. That doesn't make sense...if you are of a mind to re-supply, shouldn't someone on the island have an idea of where to find the delivery?

Was the plane shot down? Was it hit by a supply delivery rocket? Is it all Fed-ex's fault?

jimHJJ(...will Hurley hurl from the rocks?...)

Is Forest Gump somewhere on the island?

[Resident Loser]

Is Forest Gump somewhere on the island?

...Robinson Crusoe?

jimHJJ(...tell ya' on Friday...)

[ForeverAutumn]

the test subjects would have been unable to enter the code and there is an auto reset for such an eventuality...all the PA noise and flashing lights might be a Dharma red herring to cover the fact, causing the occupants to surmise all the fireworks essentially re-booted the systems, to think no further, to simply count their lucky stars and to follow their directive re: code entry...of course that raises the question as to why it would be necessary to keep volunteers to the project in the dark, as it were, during a scheduled drop. That doesn't make sense...if you are of a mind to re-supply, shouldn't someone on the island have an idea of where to find the delivery?

I think that you're on to something here. Assume there is no Fake-Henry in the hatch. Locke is in there alone. The doors/walls come down, closing Locke into the living area and away from the computer. If Locke doesn't realize that he can crawl through the vents into the computer area (or is physically unable to do so), how does the button get pushed? What happens if it isn't pushed? Do the doors/walls coming down suspend the need for the button? We know that it doesn't suspend the countdown. You would think that whoever was running this show (and by "show" I mean the Dharma experiment), would time the lockdown so that there was no risk to the button being pushed. The walls should come down just after 108 and back up before 0. It just doesn't make sense that the walls coming down would risk the integrity of the button. Something isn't right here. Is it a flaw in the story line? Or will this miss-step amount to something?

[ForeverAutumn]

Is there any way that the food drop could have been done by balloon?

[kexodusc]

I think that you're on to something here. Assume there is no Fake-Henry in the hatch. Locke is in there alone. The doors/walls come down, closing Locke into the living area and away from the computer. If Locke doesn't realize that he can crawl through the vents into the computer area (or is physically unable to do so), how does the button get pushed? What happens if it isn't pushed? Do the doors/walls coming down suspend the need for the button? We know that it doesn't suspend the countdown. You would think that whoever was running this show (and by "show" I mean the Dharma experiment), would time the lockdown so that there was no risk to the button being pushed. The walls should come down just after 108 and back up before 0. It just doesn't make sense that the walls coming down would risk the integrity of the button. Something isn't right here. Is it a flaw in the story line? Or will this miss-step amount to something?

Hmmm, interesting theory folks.

I'm guessing that voice that was picked up might be the clue here. Perhpas the lockdown was triggered by another source, another Dharma bunker on the island somewhere? But what's the purpose of the lockdown then? What are the blast doors protecting against?