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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexmark3200
    Well, when broken down succinctly, perhaps that may be correct, but sometimes I find myself forgiving certain films because of their absolutely beautiful marketing or performance on Digital Versatile Disc...
    Okay, so basically we agree on the synopsis, but disagree on the conclusion. (I vote thumbs down, you vote thumbs up, yes?) Fine.

    But, I could say a similar thing about showgirls: Well, when [you say that it's not a story worth making a film about], perhaps that may be correct, but sometimes I find myself forgiving certain films because of their [T&A].

    Actually, I did enjoy the T&A in Showgirls. The thought of Elizabeth Berkley -- Jessie from Saved by The Bell, ferpete'ssakes! -- all growed up and nekkid...mmmm...I'm going to have to get that boxset, but I'm confident enough with it's future that I think I'll wait until I see it in the cutout bins.

    But that's not even what saved it for me.

    I should mention that I really enjoyed the characterizations -- it's kind of like watching a shark school -- at first, they all look dangerous, but then you realize, some of them are even afraid of each other. (So, by analogy, at first glance, all the characters in Showgirls were sleazy, but then some of them had moral lines that they wouldn't cross, that others would. So there were characters in them that were sleazier than other characters. Enough so that even some of the sleaziest characters in the film found them sleazy by comparison. Did that make any sense?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Chalk
    Actually, I did enjoy the T&A in Showgirls. The thought of Elizabeth Berkley -- Jessie from Saved by The Bell, ferpete'ssakes! -- all growed up and nekkid...mmmm...

    Exactly! Just for that, it's kept off the list.

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    Hmm - all the movies I gave *1/2/***** or less to - yes I rate films too.

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    Black Sheep
    Flesh Gordon
    Friday The 13th, Part III
    Ghost In The Machine
    Jason Goes To Hell: The Final Friday
    Oasis Of The Zombies
    Showgirls
    Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls
    Airheads
    Baby--Secret Of The Lost Legend
    Bad Girls
    Barb Wire
    Congo
    Crash
    Friday The 13th, Part II
    Friday The 13th, Part V-A New Beginning
    Halloween: The Curse Of Michael Myers
    Hellmaster
    Jaws: The Revenge
    Lightning Jack
    On Deadly Ground
    Police Academy 4: Citizens On Patrol
    Speed 2: Cruise Control
    Stay Tuned
    Swarm, The

    * to *1/2
    Ace Ventura: Pet Detective
    Anaconda
    Armed And Dangerous
    Avengers, The
    Bad Boys
    Bad Company
    Bad Moon
    Batman & Robin
    Beastmaster, The
    Bees, The
    Before And After
    Best Defense
    Beverly Hills Cop II
    Blob, The (1958)
    Bordello of Blood
    Boxing Helena
    Brain, The
    Bram Stoker's Dracula
    By Dawn's Early Light
    Canadian Bacon
    Candyman
    Cannibal Woman In The Avocado Jungle Of Death
    Cannonball Run II
    Chain Reaction
    Chopping Mall
    Cowboy Way, The
    Crocodile Dundee II
    Crow: City Of Angels, The
    Crush, The
    Day After, The
    Daylight
    Death Wish II
    Deepstar Six
    Diabolique(1996)
    Dune
    Earthquake
    Entity, The
    Escape From L.A.
    Evil Dead, The
    Excalibur
    Exorcist II: The Heretic
    Eye For An Eye, An
    F/X 2: The Deadly Art Of Illusion
    Final Conflict, The
    Fire Down Below
    Firewalker
    Friday The 13th
    Friday The 13th, Part VI: Jason Lives
    Friday The 13th, Part VII: The New Blood
    Friday The 13th-The Final Chapter
    Ghost And The Darkness, The
    Good Mother, The
    Great Expectations
    Halloween III: Season Of The Witch
    Halloween IV: The Return Of Michael Myers
    Halloween V: The Revenge Of Michael Myers
    Hard Rain
    Haunted Honeymoon
    Hell Night
    High School High
    Independence Day
    Jackal, The (1997)
    John Carpenter's Vampires
    Jurassic Park III
    Juror, The
    Langoliers, The
    Larger Than Life
    Leviathan
    Lifepod
    Loose Cannons
    Major League II
    Mars Attacks!
    Maximum Overdrive
    National Lampoon's Loaded Weapon 1
    Night Of The Living Dead (1990)
    Nightmare On Elm Street 2, A: Freddy's Revenge
    Out To Sea
    Patriot, The
    Peacemaker, The
    Pelican Brief, The
    Pet Sematary
    Police Academy II: Their First Assignment
    Poltergeist II: The Other Side
    Predator 2
    Problem Child
    Punisher, The (1990)
    Quick And The Dead
    Raising Cain
    Robocop 2
    Robocop 3
    Rocky V
    Santa Clause, The
    Scanner Cop
    Scanners 2: The New Order
    Scorpion King, The
    Sphere
    Stealing Home
    Striptease
    Substitute, The
    Supergirl
    Superman IV: The Quest For Peace
    Surviving The Game
    Tango And Cash
    Terror In The Aisles
    Thinner
    Traces Of Red
    Trigger Effect, The
    Volcano
    Wes Craven's Wishmaster
    Suspect Zero

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Chalk
    Okay, so basically we agree on the synopsis, but disagree on the conclusion. (I vote thumbs down, you vote thumbs up, yes?) Fine.

    But, I could say a similar thing about showgirls: Well, when [you say that it's not a story worth making a film about], perhaps that may be correct, but sometimes I find myself forgiving certain films because of their [T&A].

    Actually, I did enjoy the T&A in Showgirls. The thought of Elizabeth Berkley -- Jessie from Saved by The Bell, ferpete'ssakes! -- all growed up and nekkid...mmmm...I'm going to have to get that boxset, but I'm confident enough with it's future that I think I'll wait until I see it in the cutout bins.

    But that's not even what saved it for me.

    I should mention that I really enjoyed the characterizations -- it's kind of like watching a shark school -- at first, they all look dangerous, but then you realize, some of them are even afraid of each other. (So, by analogy, at first glance, all the characters in Showgirls were sleazy, but then some of them had moral lines that they wouldn't cross, that others would. So there were characters in them that were sleazier than other characters. Enough so that even some of the sleaziest characters in the film found them sleazy by comparison. Did that make any sense?)
    Yeah, I gotta tell ya Dusty....she really WAS one delightful delicious piece of ass in that film, our Miss Saved By The Bell....what a body on that girl. I couldnt stand the film, and didnt understand why this gets a massive DVD set with all kinds of collectors items that makes it look like some kind of board game, while cult classics like "The Warriors" get bare bones treatment from the likes of Paramount; but I can understand the appeal for some people. After all, the rest of us need jerk off material, right?

    When you say "grown up and nekkid...." man, was that girl awesomely N-A-K-E-D in that film! What a body on her; and Kyle McLoughan's little slut wasnt half bad, either. I would have loved to see the two of them roll around in the hay a bit.

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    Thought Of Another For My List....

    "Jason X"....one of the absolute worst films --- horror or otherwise --- of all time, surely.

    I am glad to see Exorcist II and Jaws: The Revenge making other people's lists of the worst......

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