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    Fair enough.... but

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
    I respect your views Worf. But really it's those stereotypes that makes that type of comedy funny whether TV programs, cartoons or stand up, the ability to make fun of ourselves. I wonder if what you said was their real intension? If so, why would a black man be willing to do the voice. I also understand what one person may find funny, is not to another, or even offensive. When I watch stand up, usually a black comedian will be talking about black people for at least part of their routine. The same with a comedian who is fat, hence Lewy Anderson, Oriental or White. I sure don't want the Red Neck comedy tour to represent all White folks. What about Mr. Magoo, I'm sure partially sighted people don't want you to think they act like that.

    What is your take on Chep from South Park?
    Anyone who knows me knows that I can laugh at myself. Much of the best humor from Black Comedians is about.... us. I can laugh at the routines of Pryor, Murphy et all because it's adult comedy for adult brains. This cartoon was like putting poison in bubble gum and selling it outside of a school. Kids minds are like sponges and they take in anything you push in their way. I always thought the cartoon was stupid because it premiered long after my Saturday Morning Cartoon watching days were done and it seemed ultra silly to me. When I saw it one afternoon at my sisters house about 6 years ago I was so angry I couldn't see straight.

    Taken as an isolated incident perhaps it wouldn't be so worrisome and I could dismiss it as just one unfortunate part of the "Kung Fu Craze" as Wooch insightfully points out. However some socio-psychologist have just redone landmark Race and Self image testing wherein Black children are given 2 Dolls one white, one black. And after almost 60 years the results are sadly the same. Black children still hate their skin, still consider their race, color and hair "inferior" to whites. Some of us still don't love ourselves as we are.

    Perhaps this sad fact caused me to lash out at this stupidity so harshly but it's like one more drop of water in an already vile sea to me. Make jokes about me, I'm an adult and can take them, but when young children despise their own skins to the point they often contemplate suicide, then the joke's no longer funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Worf101
    Anyone who knows me knows that I can laugh at myself. Much of the best humor from Black Comedians is about.... us. I can laugh at the routines of Pryor, Murphy et all because it's adult comedy for adult brains. This cartoon was like putting poison in bubble gum and selling it outside of a school. Kids minds are like sponges and they take in anything you push in their way. I always thought the cartoon was stupid because it premiered long after my Saturday Morning Cartoon watching days were done and it seemed ultra silly to me. When I saw it one afternoon at my sisters house about 6 years ago I was so angry I couldn't see straight.

    Taken as an isolated incident perhaps it wouldn't be so worrisome and I could dismiss it as just one unfortunate part of the "Kung Fu Craze" as Wooch insightfully points out. However some socio-psychologist have just redone landmark Race and Self image testing wherein Black children are given 2 Dolls one white, one black. And after almost 60 years the results are sadly the same. Black children still hate their skin, still consider their race, color and hair "inferior" to whites. Some of us still don't love ourselves as we are.

    Perhaps this sad fact caused me to lash out at this stupidity so harshly but it's like one more drop of water in an already vile sea to me. Make jokes about me, I'm an adult and can take them, but when young children despise their own skins to the point they often contemplate suicide, then the joke's no longer funny.

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    You, me, all of us should love ourselves for who and what we are. It is no joke to read how children can hate themselves for the color of their skin. It's time all of these things became a horrible part of our history. But history, not present or future. There has been enough sorrow already.
    Maybe this is a subject for another thread.
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    I forgot one:

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    Not sure what it is about this dog, but he's the non-typical hero character, who is so lovable, yet pure sinister too, at least when you start messin' with him, he always get's his revenge.

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    Hi Smokey: This is a copy of your first post. You made an error. Donald Duck??? How about DAFFY DUCK. !!!!!
    Bugs Bunny: Most recognizable characters in the world is also the coolest. His feud with Elmer Fudd, Yosemite Sam and Donald Duck are most memorable.

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    Many cartoon characters are quite good. But it was one of maybe two cartoons made by MGM that I thought were hilarious. I do not know their titles, but what they did is show scenes from using literal english language. I wish I could explain this better. If I find something like this on the web, I will post as to what I mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelsci
    Many cartoon characters are quite good. But it was one of maybe two cartoons made by MGM that I thought were hilarious. I do not know their titles, but what they did is show scenes from using literal english language. I wish I could explain this better. If I find something like this on the web, I will post as to what I mean.
    Yeah I hate when something is so memorable and made such a huge impact that I can't remember it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelsci
    Many cartoon characters are quite good. But it was one of maybe two cartoons made by MGM that I thought were hilarious. I do not know their titles, but what they did is show scenes from using literal english language. I wish I could explain this better. If I find something like this on the web, I will post as to what I mean.
    You're thinking of Tex Avery's Symphony in Slang where a guy's at the pearly gates and trying to explain his life. Of course, he's talking in slang and the gatekeeper's trying to figure out terms like "cat got your tongue," "cut the mustard," "all thumbs," "between a rock and a hard place," "throwing me a line," or "raining cats and dogs" and imagining his descriptions literally. Great stuff, like most of Avery's body of work at MGM, albeit a change of pace from his manically paced (and absurdly violent) slapstick masterpieces like Bad Luck Blackie and King Size Canary (my personal favorite cartoon short of all time).

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelsci
    Hi Smokey: This is a copy of your first post. You made an error. Donald Duck??? How about DAFFY DUCK. !!!!!
    Bugs Bunny: Most recognizable characters in the world is also the coolest. His feud with Elmer Fudd, Yosemite Sam and Donald Duck are most memorable.
    Hi Kelsci

    You are right about Daffy Duck. That is what I meant. But Disney's Donald Duck is also a fun character in her own right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey
    ney's Donald Duck is also a fun character in her own right
    Umm, is Donald having gender issues?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeruvianSkies
    Umm, is Donald having gender issues?
    Yes, since he doesn't wear any pants


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    Nice comeback Smokey.

    It's great to be looking at all of the pictures you guys are including with your posts. Brings back some fond memories.

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    Maybe "The Duck" needs a few hours with a gender bender.
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    Well Worf I can't argue with your observation but IMO if you go back even further the Magpies (Heckle and Jekyl-I think) were the most racist. They were I think a rip-off of Amos-n-Andy as Top Cat was a rip-off of Phil Silvers/Sgt Bilko and the Flinstones of the Honeymooners.

    Many of the older cartoons were a sign of their times and unfortunately reflected some of the attitudes that existed. In today's culture we have some cartoons like "Family Guy", "The Simpsons" etc that really push the boundries and to some reflect our times as well. It will be interesting to see what the future brings. It seems cartoons now days are are written on two levels (for kids and adults) which was certainly not neccessarily the case for cartoons written for TV but was somewhat there when they used to show cartoons on the big screen before the movie.

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