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    Frankly it was a pretty stupid movie. I enjoyed it on a leave my brain at the door level when I went to the theater but thinking it over some more I could not imagine sitting through the glorified poorly acted Disney like flick again. And I was not all that impressed by the 3D which still looks like you are looking at one screen sitting in front of another screen - not seamless.

    Atomic Adam posted this review a while ago and this guy is absolutely hilarious reviewing movies. Watch his reviews on the Phantom Menace and Star Trek Generation which he calls the worst movie ever made hahaha. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJarz7BYnHA

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    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    Frankly it was a pretty stupid movie. I enjoyed it on a leave my brain at the door level when I went to the theater but thinking it over some more I could not imagine sitting through the glorified poorly acted Disney like flick again. And I was not all that impressed by the 3D which still looks like you are looking at one screen sitting in front of another screen - not seamless.

    Atomic Adam posted this review a while ago and this guy is absolutely hilarious reviewing movies. Watch his reviews on the Phantom Menace and Star Trek Generation which he calls the worst movie ever made hahaha. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJarz7BYnHA
    Sounds like my kind of movie. I have found that whenever the critics love a movie, I end up not liking it. When they hate a movie, it turns out to be a favorite of mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    Sounds like my kind of movie. I have found that whenever the critics love a movie, I end up not liking it. When they hate a movie, it turns out to be a favorite of mine.
    You're better off just watching Aliens - a much better movie than Avatar - even if it is 2D.

    If you're a Star Trek fan at all you have to watch his reviews of the movies. He is actually quite correct. The movies never lived up the television series ideology which is rather sad.

    Star Trek: Generations - The Stupidest movie ever made - it ruined not just Star Trek but everyyyything. I just like the slow droll the way the guy talks. Spending an evening listening to his reviews is better than most movies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    You're better off just watching Aliens - a much better movie than Avatar - even if it is 2D.

    If you're a Star Trek fan at all you have to watch his reviews of the movies. He is actually quite correct. The movies never lived up the television series ideology which is rather sad.

    Star Trek: Generations - The Stupidest movie ever made - it ruined not just Star Trek but everyyyything. I just like the slow droll the way the guy talks. Spending an evening listening to his reviews is better than most movies...

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    I have seen Aliens many times. Just watched it again a couple weeks ago. It's one of my favorites. But I saw Generations too. As much as I've seen that movie ripped apart by critics, I still like it. I don't know why, but it entertains me. It takes me away from the real world for a couple hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    I have seen Aliens many times. Just watched it again a couple weeks ago. It's one of my favorites. But I saw Generations too. As much as I've seen that movie ripped apart by critics, I still like it. I don't know why, but it entertains me. It takes me away from the real world for a couple hours.
    I feel exactly the same way about this movie. One thing is for certain, we look for an escape, and critics are looking for high art. I am not sure there is a accessible bridge between the two. They are looking to attract eyes to a web page or newspaper, and we are just looking for an escape. Different objectives will often lead to different opinions.
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    Film critics tend to see a lot more movies and so they can be harder on the recent romantic comedy that we like. When they've seen 350 romantic comedies all following the same structure then they may rip one apart. If you've only seen 4 in the last 2 years you might go a LOT easier on the same movie.

    Then there is personal taste - some hate horror movies (and some critics) and while they may rate Halloween higher than Friday the 13th because they recognize quality over trash they personally may not care for it.

    I like most of the Star Trek movies even the ones like Generations which had many glaring problems as Mr. Pinkett noted in his hilarious reviews. If we pick them apart they lack any logical connection to the TV series. His review of First Contact (one of the best TREK movies) is a long session of ripping all the plot holes. I liked the review - and I think he is absolutely right on every point he makes - nevertheless I enjoyed the movie and still enjoy it because I take the films as a separate entity from the TV series. Still Star Trek IV was arguably the only Trek film that had any real sense of what Roddenberry had in mind and it was by far the most popular of the all the Trek movies and IMO the best one. The Wrath of Khan was an action picture and a good one and a close second. Some will flip the two but whatever. Part 4 was the one that made social commentary in the guise of Science Fiction - that is Star Trek at its core.

    Avatar was hugely popular - Pocahontas/ Dances with Wolves meets Aliens - his review is bang on. The bad guys are cardboard characters and the acting was uninspired. It, like plenty of other big Hollywood - all spectacle and little substance.

    The 3D was better than I have seen 3D before but it's hardly perfect. Clash of the Titans was completely rubbished for its use of 3D. So what people are going to replace their Televisions for mediocre 3d quality( way better than Jaws 3 but...) for one truly successful 3D movie in Avatar?

    I can't imagine that people are truly going to sit home and watch this film over and over. It doesn't have an emotional impact. It doesn't really have any interesting characters, and very long sequences of walking in the colourfuls forest and flying around. At least Jurassic Park had dinosaurs that eat people like Newman - that's always rewatchable for a laugh.

    But hey people loved the LOTR movies which I still can't figure out. Can't argue with the formula's.

    In a sense Plinkett argued that Titanic did the same - in fact so did the first Terminator which is no doubt why you stay with what works. Although IMO the Terminator is a way better movie than Avatar and despite the now hoaky looking effects - I will watch the Terminator many more times in my life - and I won't say that about Avatar despite the impressive effects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    Film critics tend to see a lot more movies and so they can be harder on the recent romantic comedy that we like. When they've seen 350 romantic comedies all following the same structure then they may rip one apart. If you've only seen 4 in the last 2 years you might go a LOT easier on the same movie.

    Then there is personal taste - some hate horror movies (and some critics) and while they may rate Halloween higher than Friday the 13th because they recognize quality over trash they personally may not care for it.

    I like most of the Star Trek movies even the ones like Generations which had many glaring problems as Mr. Pinkett noted in his hilarious reviews. If we pick them apart they lack any logical connection to the TV series. His review of First Contact (one of the best TREK movies) is a long session of ripping all the plot holes. I liked the review - and I think he is absolutely right on every point he makes - nevertheless I enjoyed the movie and still enjoy it because I take the films as a separate entity from the TV series. Still Star Trek IV was arguably the only Trek film that had any real sense of what Roddenberry had in mind and it was by far the most popular of the all the Trek movies and IMO the best one. The Wrath of Khan was an action picture and a good one and a close second. Some will flip the two but whatever. Part 4 was the one that made social commentary in the guise of Science Fiction - that is Star Trek at its core.

    Avatar was hugely popular - Pocahontas/ Dances with Wolves meets Aliens - his review is bang on. The bad guys are cardboard characters and the acting was uninspired. It, like plenty of other big Hollywood - all spectacle and little substance.

    The 3D was better than I have seen 3D before but it's hardly perfect. Clash of the Titans was completely rubbished for its use of 3D. So what people are going to replace their Televisions for mediocre 3d quality( way better than Jaws 3 but...) for one truly successful 3D movie in Avatar?

    I can't imagine that people are truly going to sit home and watch this film over and over. It doesn't have an emotional impact. It doesn't really have any interesting characters, and very long sequences of walking in the colourfuls forest and flying around. At least Jurassic Park had dinosaurs that eat people like Newman - that's always rewatchable for a laugh.

    But hey people loved the LOTR movies which I still can't figure out. Can't argue with the formula's.

    In a sense Plinkett argued that Titanic did the same - in fact so did the first Terminator which is no doubt why you stay with what works. Although IMO the Terminator is a way better movie than Avatar and despite the now hoaky looking effects - I will watch the Terminator many more times in my life - and I won't say that about Avatar despite the impressive effects.
    Critics are usually people who majored in literature. They are looking for great stories that are often complicated and force people to think. Those movies are ok, but often I just want an escape. A simple movie that takes my hand and leads me through the simple story while entertaining me is what I’m looking for.
    I’m not saying that the critics are wrong. We just have different tastes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
    I feel exactly the same way about this movie. One thing is for certain, we look for an escape, and critics are looking for high art. I am not sure there is a accessible bridge between the two. They are looking to attract eyes to a web page or newspaper, and we are just looking for an escape. Different objectives will often lead to different opinions.
    Bang on about critics, (most critics), looking for high art. Damned effete snobs; p!ss on them. I watch movies for one reason only -- to be entertained. (Come to that, that's why I listen to music.)

    I was hugely enterained by Avatar. Do I give a crap that the whole thing was one cliché after another? No, what I care about was that the clichés were used appropriately and effectively to entertain me.

    Aliens / Dances with Wolves / Pocahontas / FernGully, all wrapped in one?? Great by me! It worked. (Anybody remember FernGully: the Last Rainforest (1992), the animated kids' flick? Cameron stole from it directly.)
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