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    Quote Originally Posted by blackraven View Post
    A high end DAC is the last piece of the puzzle for my system unless I decide to move away from Magnepans and find a used pair of PSB Synchony 1's or a new pair of Harbeths or Sonus Faber Venere's which I recently heard. I heard the Harbeths at Axpona in the Vinny Rossi room and was blown away.
    My conclusion is that the Magneplanar MG 1.6QR's are remarkable speakers, (not to say there can't be better ones), It sounds yours have been up to the task of exploiting the other upgrades you've made. Apart from the cost which is highly significant to me, I'm reluctant launch into a search for replacements since they are so good.

    Re. the PSB Synchronys, I notice that PSB is no longer listing them as current on their website, in fact they list only their Imagine and Alpha lines as current. The latter are considered a step down from the Synchronys as far as I know.

    The Sonus Faber Venere's are certainly impressive looking and on paper. At under $3k the Venere 2.5's look quite attractive.

    The value of hearing speakers or any other component in some hotel/conference venue is limited, IMO. As it stands, the only speakers I would consider buying w/o hearing them first in my system would be Magneplanar 1.7's or 3.7's. However I'll admit that there is a certain appeal for me to have smaller, less obtrusive speakers especially if they can be placed closer to the wall behind.
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    There is nothing in the price range of the 1.6-1.7's that can compete with them. My issue is that my room is live and I have a system that should not sound bright but is does lean a little to the bright side of neutral because of the room acoustics which is not going to change. I know that the PSB Synchony's are discontinued but there are still quite a few for sale. As for the Sonus Faber's I would consider the 3.0's, but I would probably try and up my budget for the Harbeth's at about $5500pr. PSB does have a replacement for the Synchony's but they sell for about $6500pr.
    Pass Labs X250 amp, BAT Vk-51se Preamp,
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    I haven't heard a Harbeth that I thought was really worth the money.

    Have you considered these for your room?

    How to place HFT?s & FEQ in your listening room | Synergistic Research

    If you're going to spend that much for Harbeths, before you do, consider these?

    Acoustic Zen Adagio - Upscale Audio

    And several good brands here that would better the Harbeth in my opinion.

    New & Used Specials - Loudspeakers - Upscale Audio

    All Products - Loudspeakers - Sonus faber - Upscale Audio

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    and these would simply crush the Harbeths

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    The main problem with Harbeths is they don't do all music well....they mainly do female voices and softer music like some types of Jazz well and some classical. But you may not share in that opinion.
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    I think I have finally found the DAC that suits me. I got to hear the Luxman DA-06 DAC in my system last night. It sounds awesome. It is just as the 3 professional reviews have stated. It is extremely musical and dynamic. It leans a touch on the warmer side and it has a huge sound stage with great midrange depth and emotion. It does have some midbass bloom which I like. Treble is smooth, in fact the sound of the DAC is smooth and liquid. It has just enough detail. Bass is punchy, warm and controlled. Vocal, horns and piano sound just excellent. There is not fatigue what so ever. It is the most analog sounding DAC that I have heard. You can definitely tell that it is Burr Brown based and not a Sabre DAC. The build quality is superb, on par with the Marantz NA-11s1 that I briefly had.

    I am going to hear the Lampizator Amber in my system this weekend and I will make my decision then.
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    Luxman DA-06 DAC
    Van Alstine Ultra Plus Hybrid Tube DAC
    Dual Martin Logan Original Dynamo Subs
    Parasound A21 amp
    Vintage Luxman T-110 tuner
    Magnepan MMG's, Grant Fidelity DAC-11, Class D CDA254 amp
    Monitor Audio S1 speakers, PSB B6 speakers
    Vintage Technic's Integrated amp
    Music Hall 25.2 CDP
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    I seem to have forgotten but what source are you using in this adventure and for me it has been an adventure, I sort of don't want it to end. The DA-06 is a very good looking piece of equipment. It sounds like its performance matches its good looks.
    2 Channel System
    Dynaudio Contour 1.8 Mk II
    Pass Labs X150.5 (Amp)
    Cary SLP-03 (Preamp)
    Music Hall MMF 5.1 (TT)
    Goldring 1012GX (Cart.)
    Pro-ject SE II (Phono Box)
    Rotel RCD-1072 (CD Player)
    Bryston BDA-1 ( DAC )
    Sennheiser HD-600 (Headphones)
    Musical Fidelity Xcan V3 (Headphone Amp) _

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    Usher S-520 (Surrounds)
    Rel T2 (Subwoofer)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack in Wilmington View Post
    I seem to have forgotten but what source are you using in this adventure and for me it has been an adventure, I sort of don't want it to end. The DA-06 is a very good looking piece of equipment. It sounds like its performance matches its good looks.
    Jack, I just used Coax input from my CD player, no digital music yet. I am sure that it will sound better with hi-rez music.
    Pass Labs X250 amp, BAT Vk-51se Preamp,
    Thorens TD-145 TT, Bellari phono preamp, Nagaoka MP-200 Cartridge
    Magnepan QR1.6 speakers
    Luxman DA-06 DAC
    Van Alstine Ultra Plus Hybrid Tube DAC
    Dual Martin Logan Original Dynamo Subs
    Parasound A21 amp
    Vintage Luxman T-110 tuner
    Magnepan MMG's, Grant Fidelity DAC-11, Class D CDA254 amp
    Monitor Audio S1 speakers, PSB B6 speakers
    Vintage Technic's Integrated amp
    Music Hall 25.2 CDP
    Adcom GFR 700 AVR
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    Velodyne CHT 8 sub

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackraven View Post
    Jack, I just used Coax input from my CD player, no digital music yet. I am sure that it will sound better with hi-rez music.
    Is that the Music Hall 25.2 that I see in your equipment list? That's what I'm running, digital coax from my Rotel to my Bryston. I have my hi-rez coming in on USB to my BUC-1 and then AES-EBU to my BDA-1.
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    Pass Labs X150.5 (Amp)
    Cary SLP-03 (Preamp)
    Music Hall MMF 5.1 (TT)
    Goldring 1012GX (Cart.)
    Pro-ject SE II (Phono Box)
    Rotel RCD-1072 (CD Player)
    Bryston BDA-1 ( DAC )
    Sennheiser HD-600 (Headphones)
    Musical Fidelity Xcan V3 (Headphone Amp) _

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    Usher X-719 (Mains)
    Usher X-616 (Center)
    Usher S-520 (Surrounds)
    Rel T2 (Subwoofer)
    Anthem MCA20 (Amp)
    Yamaha RX-A830 (Receiver)
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    Congrats on the new gear!
    All of my DAC's are a bit long in the tooth but then again all of my gear is...
    I like how they fill out the sound on my sources so I would love to hear what a more modern DAC does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackraven View Post
    I think I have finally found the DAC that suits me. I got to hear the Luxman DA-06 DAC in my system last night. It sounds awesome. It is just as the 3 professional reviews have stated. It is extremely musical and dynamic. It leans a touch on the warmer side and it has a huge sound stage with great midrange depth and emotion. It does have some midbass bloom which I like. Treble is smooth, in fact the sound of the DAC is smooth and liquid. It has just enough detail. Bass is punchy, warm and controlled. Vocal, horns and piano sound just excellent. There is not fatigue what so ever. It is the most analog sounding DAC that I have heard. You can definitely tell that it is Burr Brown based and not a Sabre DAC. The build quality is superb, on par with the Marantz NA-11s1 that I briefly had.

    I am going to hear the Lampizator Amber in my system this weekend and I will make my decision then.
    Thats Great news! Keep us posted!
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    Jack, you are correct about the Music Hall. I had it modified years ago and it ruined the sound, so I just use it as a transport.
    Pass Labs X250 amp, BAT Vk-51se Preamp,
    Thorens TD-145 TT, Bellari phono preamp, Nagaoka MP-200 Cartridge
    Magnepan QR1.6 speakers
    Luxman DA-06 DAC
    Van Alstine Ultra Plus Hybrid Tube DAC
    Dual Martin Logan Original Dynamo Subs
    Parasound A21 amp
    Vintage Luxman T-110 tuner
    Magnepan MMG's, Grant Fidelity DAC-11, Class D CDA254 amp
    Monitor Audio S1 speakers, PSB B6 speakers
    Vintage Technic's Integrated amp
    Music Hall 25.2 CDP
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackraven View Post
    I think I have finally found the DAC that suits me. I got to hear the Luxman DA-06 DAC in my system last night. It sounds awesome. It is just as the 3 professional reviews have stated. It is extremely musical and dynamic. It leans a touch on the warmer side and it has a huge sound stage with great midrange depth and emotion. It does have some midbass bloom which I like. Treble is smooth, in fact the sound of the DAC is smooth and liquid. It has just enough detail. Bass is punchy, warm and controlled. Vocal, horns and piano sound just excellent. There is not fatigue what so ever. It is the most analog sounding DAC that I have heard. You can definitely tell that it is Burr Brown based and not a Sabre DAC. The build quality is superb, on par with the Marantz NA-11s1 that I briefly had.

    I am going to hear the Lampizator Amber in my system this weekend and I will make my decision then.
    I know what you are saying about the Burr Brown chip's sound. My PS Audio NuWave Dac has a chip in the same family in it from TI Burr Brown and it sounds a lot like you have described of the Luxman. I have never heard a Luxman dac but it sounds like a winner in your system. I think you are getting close to a complete system that you can live with for years. for me I am waiting to finally get out of School before starting back to upgrading my system again.

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    I just pulled the trigger on the Luxman. I bought it direct from Japan. I should have it in a week. I also purchased a voltage step down converter 120v to 100v which they use in Japan.
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    Pass Labs X250 amp, BAT Vk-51se Preamp,
    Thorens TD-145 TT, Bellari phono preamp, Nagaoka MP-200 Cartridge
    Magnepan QR1.6 speakers
    Luxman DA-06 DAC
    Van Alstine Ultra Plus Hybrid Tube DAC
    Dual Martin Logan Original Dynamo Subs
    Parasound A21 amp
    Vintage Luxman T-110 tuner
    Magnepan MMG's, Grant Fidelity DAC-11, Class D CDA254 amp
    Monitor Audio S1 speakers, PSB B6 speakers
    Vintage Technic's Integrated amp
    Music Hall 25.2 CDP
    Adcom GFR 700 AVR
    Cables- Cardas, Silnote, BJC
    Velodyne CHT 8 sub

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    Congrats on your new dac! Is there a huge benefit from ordering form Japan?
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