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    I've got Winamp up and running on a Win2K PC. I'm still tweaking the system.

    Next, I need to learn how to rip vinyl.
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    We never get tired of your ranting poppachubby.

    Quote Originally Posted by poppachubby
    OK pd, this may be overkill, but I'm actually in a unique situation
    ....
    Fun,fun,fun...I think most members are sick of this rant by me but I see you as fresh blood pd lol, here's a couple of pics...
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    Yamaha DVD-S2700 CD/SACD/DVD >> MONSTER STANDARD THX i100 >>|
    Yamaha CDC-765 CD 5 disc >>==== MONSTER STANDARD THX i100 >>|
    JVC TD-W709 Cassette >>======== MONSTER STANDARD THX i100 >>|
    Yamaha RX-797 Receiver -------------------------------------+
    Sennheiser HD650 Head phones <<===========================<<|
    Klipsch RF-7 <<L############### MONSTER MSERIES MCX-2S ##L<<|
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    Nice to know Rake-doggy. If you need help ripping LP's give a shout or try 02audionoob, he's more knowledgeable than me.

    I would lose the WINamp and get Media Monkey. It's leaps and bounds ahead in terms of fidelity.

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    Thanks, I'll try Media Monkey. Right now I'm in the R&D phase. I'm still trying to figure out what I want to do. When I do I'll start my own thread for support.

    Quote Originally Posted by poppachubby
    Nice to know Rake-doggy. If you need help ripping LP's give a shout or try 02audionoob, he's more knowledgeable than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by poppachubby

    I would lose the WINamp and get Media Monkey. It's leaps and bounds ahead in terms of fidelity.
    Philips GA312/ Stanton 681EEE/ Jico D6800EEE-S Shibata ===>>|
    Yamaha DVD-S2700 CD/SACD/DVD >> MONSTER STANDARD THX i100 >>|
    Yamaha CDC-765 CD 5 disc >>==== MONSTER STANDARD THX i100 >>|
    JVC TD-W709 Cassette >>======== MONSTER STANDARD THX i100 >>|
    Yamaha RX-797 Receiver -------------------------------------+
    Sennheiser HD650 Head phones <<===========================<<|
    Klipsch RF-7 <<L############### MONSTER MSERIES MCX-2S ##L<<|
    Klipsch RF-7 <<R############### MONSTER MSERIES MCX-2S ##R<<|

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppachubby
    Nice to know Rake-doggy. If you need help ripping LP's give a shout or try 02audionoob, he's more knowledgeable than me.

    I would lose the WINamp and get Media Monkey. It's leaps and bounds ahead in terms of fidelity.
    Pops, It's possible to get bit perfect from Winamp. The major problem with Winamp is that the volume control screws around with the signal. You can bypass this by going to "Options" ==>"Preferences" ==> "Output" and click on the output .dll your using and defeat the volume control there. You also need to configure the Windows audio stack so that the kmixer is bypassed. Another way is to use an ASIO driver if your soundcard/DAC supports it. I had installed foobar to compare and I can't hear any difference and since I like the Winamp GUI a lot better....
    Back in my day, we had nine planets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvin Da Blues
    Pops, It's possible to get bit perfect from Winamp. The major problem with Winamp is that the volume control screws around with the signal. You can bypass this by going to "Options" ==>"Preferences" ==> "Output" and click on the output .dll your using and defeat the volume control there. You also need to configure the Windows audio stack so that the kmixer is bypassed. Another way is to use an ASIO driver if your soundcard/DAC supports it. I had installed foobar to compare and I can't hear any difference and since I like the Winamp GUI a lot better....
    Hey LDB. I haven't done any of the required tinkering with my Windows to get bit-perfect. My main comp is also the media server so my wife wants audio for things other than music. I have an older comp that I will ressurect so that I can shut off the crumby Windows sounds, etc. Just have to find the time and motivation to do it. Since everything sounds so damn good, I'm not encouraged to get on it.

    So, for my comp being the way it is, I have found Media Monkey to have an exceptional player. I also have my Yamaha CDP plugged in via toslink, which I have been using alot lately.

    Thanks for the info mate. When I am ready, I will nedd the exact path to access those things on the comp. I'll PM you or Feanor...

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    It's pretty easy. Here's some instructions from another site.....

    "Some people think that better than ASIO is to un-map the USB DAC device from the KMIXER. This is done as follows:

    Go Control Panel => Sounds and Audio Device => Select Hardware Tab => Select USB Audio Device.

    Click Properties Button => Select Properties Tab => Click the “+” to the left of [+] Audio Devices that will pop down USB Audio Devices.
    Select USB Audio Devices and click Properties.

    Check both Use audio features of this device and Do not map through this device.
    ==> [ Apply ] <==

    That will unmap the KMIXER without using ASIO."
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    Winamp questions

    Thanks Luvin Da Blues

    Quote Originally Posted by Luvin Da Blues
    Pops, It's possible to get bit perfect from Winamp. The major problem with Winamp is that the volume control screws around with the signal. You can bypass this by going to "Options" ==>"Preferences" ==> "Output" and click on the output .dll your using and defeat the volume control there. ....
    OK, I did this for 2 and 3 below. Questions- Which one of 2 or 3 should I be using? Or am I using one or the other depending on what my source or output is?
    1. Nullsoft Disk Writer v2.14 [out_disk.dll]
    2. Nullsoft DirectSound Output v2.49 [out_ds.dll]
    3. Nullsoft WaveOut Output v2.12 [out_wave.dll]


    Quote Originally Posted by Luvin Da Blues
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    You also need to configure the Windows audio stack so that the kmixer is bypassed. . ...
    I don't know how to do this.


    Quote Originally Posted by Luvin Da Blues
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    Another way is to use an ASIO driver if your soundcard/DAC supports it.
    ....
    I tried an ASIO plug-in without success, I got no sound out of Winamp. I have an OEM sound card on a Dell Optiplex GX400 running Win2K. The sound card is made by Analog Devices Inc., model "SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio". I have no external DAC yet.


    Quote Originally Posted by Luvin Da Blues
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    I had installed foobar to compare and I can't hear any difference and since I like the Winamp GUI a lot better....
    I tried Foobar2000. It does not install on Win2K. Is there a version of Foobar that runs on Windows 2000? I really don't want to buy yet another flippin' OS from MicroSucks!
    Philips GA312/ Stanton 681EEE/ Jico D6800EEE-S Shibata ===>>|
    Yamaha DVD-S2700 CD/SACD/DVD >> MONSTER STANDARD THX i100 >>|
    Yamaha CDC-765 CD 5 disc >>==== MONSTER STANDARD THX i100 >>|
    JVC TD-W709 Cassette >>======== MONSTER STANDARD THX i100 >>|
    Yamaha RX-797 Receiver -------------------------------------+
    Sennheiser HD650 Head phones <<===========================<<|
    Klipsch RF-7 <<L############### MONSTER MSERIES MCX-2S ##L<<|
    Klipsch RF-7 <<R############### MONSTER MSERIES MCX-2S ##R<<|

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvin Da Blues
    It's pretty easy. Here's some instructions from another site.....

    "Some people think that better than ASIO is to un-map the USB DAC device from the KMIXER. This is done as follows:

    Go Control Panel => Sounds and Audio Device => Select Hardware Tab => Select USB Audio Device.

    Click Properties Button => Select Properties Tab => Click the + to the left of [+] Audio Devices that will pop down USB Audio Devices.
    Select USB Audio Devices and click Properties.

    Check both Use audio features of this device and Do not map through this device.
    ==> [ Apply ] <==

    That will unmap the KMIXER without using ASIO."
    I tried this too. I don't have USB Audio Devices.

    "Me So Stupid" - ZZ Top circa 2003.
    Philips GA312/ Stanton 681EEE/ Jico D6800EEE-S Shibata ===>>|
    Yamaha DVD-S2700 CD/SACD/DVD >> MONSTER STANDARD THX i100 >>|
    Yamaha CDC-765 CD 5 disc >>==== MONSTER STANDARD THX i100 >>|
    JVC TD-W709 Cassette >>======== MONSTER STANDARD THX i100 >>|
    Yamaha RX-797 Receiver -------------------------------------+
    Sennheiser HD650 Head phones <<===========================<<|
    Klipsch RF-7 <<L############### MONSTER MSERIES MCX-2S ##L<<|
    Klipsch RF-7 <<R############### MONSTER MSERIES MCX-2S ##R<<|

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    Quote Originally Posted by rakeford
    Thanks Luvin Da Blues


    OK, I did this for 2 and 3 below. Questions- Which one of 2 or 3 should I be using? Or am I using one or the other depending on what my source or output is?
    1. Nullsoft Disk Writer v2.14 [out_disk.dll]
    2. Nullsoft DirectSound Output v2.49 [out_ds.dll]<== I use this one
    3. Nullsoft WaveOut Output v2.12 [out_wave.dll]



    I don't know how to do this. <== see post #32 on this thread
    This should work for any OEM or external SC/DAC.
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