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    Quote Originally Posted by magictooth
    Well, I finally got around to doing the blind A/B trials that I had been planning to do for a while. I won't bore you with the details of the methodology which can be found here: Please Judge My A/B Methodology, Mtry Others.

    I did add another wrinkle into the trials. My first A/B was a true David vs. Goliath match up with the Toshiba SD-1600 going up against the Classe DVD/CD-1. The first is valued probably around $0-20 while the second on the second hand market is around $1200-1500.

    My results with this match up were likely a bit surprising to the naysayers. I could tell the difference each and every time. There was no contest between the two. In fact, you could say it was "a night and day difference." Now you'd think that I'd just stop here and proclaim victory for the yeasayers, but I'm not sure how well a 5 year old 5 pound DVD player is going to work after such a long time. I'd be willing to wager that the normal useful lifespan of this player has long been exceeded.

    Hence, the second A/B trial that I did was with a new Toshiba SD-3950 that I picked up at Walmart for $89Cdn. This unit purports to have 192/24 DACs and to have the newest Crystal decoding chip. It would be interesting to see how this new unit stacked up against the slightly older Classe model.

    I did the A/B and I was a bit surprised at the results. In 6 separate trials with different types of music, I found that the Toshiba and the Classe were virtually indistinguishable from each other. I say virtually because there was one selection where a difference could be detected. This selection is the Mozart Flute and Harp concerto. The Harp when played on the Toshiba had a digital type of edge to it; when played on the Classe, it sounded more like a harp. I could tell the difference between the two units in this one case.

    In all the other cases, such as with Gershwin, Bruch violin concerto, Dvorak cello concerto, Norah Jones, and Stone Temple Pilots, I could tell no difference at all between the two units. I had what you could consider a very poor result if you are a yeasayer. I got 14/25 tries correct and I'm sure that this means nothing at all given the small statistcal sample. For the harp selection, I scored 5/5, but I also realize that the small sample size may not mean a whole lot.

    In any case, I'm not here to argue statistical significance, but to let people know that the results that I got from my A/B trials showed that buying a very expensive CD or DVD player may not result in as good an improvement in sound as you'd like to see - especially considering how many times more you've spent on the unit compared to a mass market model.

    My final conclusion is that there is a difference between different CD/DVD players, but, for me, the difference is not sufficient to justify the multiplication of cost.
    Thanks for doing the test and sharing the results. Most forum members, including myself, talk and argue about testing, but rarely do any. It's good to see someone making an effort. I don't know whether the test results suggest the Toshiba SD-3950 is an over achiever or the Classe DVD/CD-1 isn't much better than low-priced players. Loving a bargin, I would hope for the fomer, but my guess would be the latter. Is the Toshiba something special?
    Last edited by okiemax; 06-18-2004 at 07:48 PM.

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