Thanks noddinoff. I'm trying to find a DAC to replace my PC soundcard, but if it's not going to make a big difference I'll stay with the PC sound. I might try the Micro DAC, but if the highly touted Zhaolu doesn't change much then I'll take my time. BTW, I had read that the Zhaolu is a little harsh so I am avoiding that one. I was going try try the Super DAC, but I suspect that is like the Zhaolu. Correct me if I am wrong.