Quote Originally Posted by audio amateur
ZR1 is a beast. Check it out making an impressive lap (and time) of the Nurburgring Norscheife: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6mEirkQN8o

As for the DAC... I believe in deminishing returns, which means I would probably never spend 4K on a DAC if I can't hear a clear improvement in sound.
that was basically all I was trying to say is that sometimes you are just throwing money away on an improvement that your imperfect ears might night be able to hear anyway. Not always the case but I have seen it many times. And as well I have seen people have the so called placebo effect by way of either trying to justify there big purchase or by knowing that change has been made to their system because they installed the component and are looking for differences which might or might not be there. I have seen some cases where the owner of the equipment hears a huge difference then they ask me to come listen to the system and I am as familiar with their systems as they are and I could not hear the difference they are hearing, Not saying their ears or mine are perfect by any means but sometimes the purchaser of the equipment hears more of a difference than a person that is not involved with the purchase.