You guys ought to publish your theories!

[Monstrous Mike]

Then the solution is to institute more courts and build more prisons, not let drug dealers and repeat offenders off the hook.

Tolerance for illegal drugs are crimes against people and lead to crimes against property when drug addicts commit burglaries and murder to steal money for their insatiable obsession.

Skeptic, while I agree with your position on cables, I do not believe you apply the same logic and reason with regard to drugs.

In the last 10 years, drug use has remained level yet the "War on Drugs" has received a 50% increase in funding. You know how to do math, don't you? Here are some salient points to consider.

1. Look at the origins of drug laws. It was based on race. Opium was outlawed in the late 19th century out of fear that the Chinese who were smoking it would lure white women. Cocaine was outlawed for a fear of black men going crazy and raping white women. And outlawing in the early 20th century meant you needed a license to sell drugs. And the big powerful white men found that they could set up a little empire going after people without licenses. And the less licenses they issued, the more enforcement they needed. I cannot see how this has changed in the last 100 years.

2. Look at the hazard of drugs. Tobacco kills more people in one year than prohibited drugs have killed people in the entire 20th century.

3. Let's look at drugs and violence. There is only one drug that clearing increases aggression when consumed and that drug is alcohol. The violence and crime associated with prohibited drugs are the result of the fact that they are illegal making them very expensive and that they are generally distributed by criminal organizations. Most authorities on drug use agree that the violence associated with drugs is due to the fact that they are illegal.

4. The myth of marijuana being a gateway drug has been convincingly debunked. It simply isn't true so the use of this arguement in defending the war on drugs is patently illogical.

5. Every scholarly drug study has recommended decriminalization of drugs. Yet, this recommendation has not ever been implemented or even accepted.

6. There is no common sense reason for tobacco, alochol and prescription drugs to be legal and other drugs to be illegal other than the fact that tobacco, alcohol and prescription drugs are a huge industry and the fight against all the other drugs are another huge industry.

So why haven't things changed? The easy answer is power. Marijuana is a gateway drug in one sense. It's a gateway for law enforcement agencies to break your shield of privacy. Oh yeah, don't forget those huge "industries".

Somebody please tell me why in my own home I can pickle my liver with Jack Daniels but I can't light up a joint?

There are about 900,000 people in prison in the US for drug-related offences. If you think the solution is to build more prisons and throw more people in jail well then sir, you are nuts.

[skeptic]

" The violence and crime associated with prohibited drugs are the result of the fact that they are illegal making them very expensive and that they are generally distributed by criminal organizations. Most authorities on drug use agree that the violence associated with drugs is due to the fact that they are illegal."

Tell it to Lisa Steinberg. Oh I forgot you can't, she was killed by her cocaine crazed father who is about to be released from prison.

Tell it to the parents of kids who experimented with LSD and jumped out of an upper story window because they thought they could fly.

Tell it to the families of kids who do nothing but sit around all the time because smoking marijuana left them without the desire to make anything out of their lives.

Tell it to the victims and their families of date rape drugs.

Tell it to the children of crack addicts who never take care of them or even feed them anymore.

Tell it to the heroine addicts who spend their lives nodding off between scrambling to steal money for their next fix.

Tell it to countless movie stars, rock stars, and sports stars who threw away brilliant careers and vast fortunes because they became addicted to crack cocaine.

Tell it to the cops who pick up the shattered pieces of countless thousands of lives broken by drugs.

Monstrous, just monstrous Mike.

Go back to your "scholarly studies." You obviously know more about it than any of the victims do.

[Rockwell]

" The violence and crime associated with prohibited drugs are the result of the fact that they are illegal making them very expensive and that they are generally distributed by criminal organizations. Most authorities on drug use agree that the violence associated with drugs is due to the fact that they are illegal."

Tell it to Lisa Steinberg. Oh I forgot you can't, she was killed by her cocaine crazed father who is about to be released from prison.

Tell it to the parents of kids who experimented with LSD and jumped out of an upper story window because they thought they could fly.

Tell it to the families of kids who do nothing but sit around all the time because smoking marijuana left them without the desire to make anything out of their lives.

Tell it to the victims and their families of date rape drugs.

Tell it to the children of crack addicts who never take care of them or even feed them anymore.

Tell it to the heroine addicts who spend their lives nodding off between scrambling to steal money for their next fix.

Tell it to countless movie stars, rock stars, and sports stars who threw away brilliant careers and vast fortunes because they became addicted to crack cocaine.

Tell it to the cops who pick up the shattered pieces of countless thousands of lives broken by drugs.

Monstrous, just monstrous Mike.

Go back to your "scholarly studies." You obviously know more about it than any of the victims do.

Yes, and drugs are illegal, aren't they? Drug laws didn't stop any of that, but it did shatter the lives of countless people who didn't hurt anyone. We already have laws against neglecting your children, raping, and killing.

[skeptic]

"Drug laws didn't stop any of that, but it did shatter the lives of countless people who didn't hurt anyone."

No they didn't. Those lives were shattered by the people who BROKE the laws. And now there's a better reason than ever to enforce them. The profits from some of those drugs are being used to fund the terrorists who want to destroy America.

[Thomas_A]

BTW,

Siper2, here is another for you:

"Immunization myths and realities: Responding to arguments against immunization" in J. Paediatr. Child Health (2003) 39: 487-491, and references therein.

T

[mtrycraft]

BTW,

Siper2, here is another for you:

"Immunization myths and realities: Responding to arguments against immunization" in J. Paediatr. Child Health (2003) 39: 487-491, and references therein.

T

But that is not published by a chiro journal, biased to protect the industry and the medical profession.

Fact? You want facts to get in the way?

[Monstrous Mike]

" The violence and crime associated with prohibited drugs are the result of the fact that they are illegal making them very expensive and that they are generally distributed by criminal organizations. Most authorities on drug use agree that the violence associated with drugs is due to the fact that they are illegal."

Tell it to Lisa Steinberg. Oh I forgot you can't, she was killed by her cocaine crazed father who is about to be released from prison.

Tell it to the parents of kids who experimented with LSD and jumped out of an upper story window because they thought they could fly.

Tell it to the families of kids who do nothing but sit around all the time because smoking marijuana left them without the desire to make anything out of their lives.

Tell it to the victims and their families of date rape drugs.

Tell it to the children of crack addicts who never take care of them or even feed them anymore.

Tell it to the heroine addicts who spend their lives nodding off between scrambling to steal money for their next fix.

Tell it to countless movie stars, rock stars, and sports stars who threw away brilliant careers and vast fortunes because they became addicted to crack cocaine.

Tell it to the cops who pick up the shattered pieces of countless thousands of lives broken by drugs.

Monstrous, just monstrous Mike.

Go back to your "scholarly studies." You obviously know more about it than any of the victims do.

Take each of your stories and substitute "alcohol" for "drugs".

Are you in favour of prohibiting alcohol? If we are going to protect people from consuming mind altering substances, then we have to include alcohol, don't we?

Call me crazy but I support holding people responsible for their actions, not what kind of mood they are in.

Like I said about you and your reasonable views on cables, you seem to depart here with illogical arguements.

An analogy to what you are saying in those statements in your post could be applied to almost anything. I read of a guy who killed his wife with a butterknife. Do we need to ban butterknives? That's your logic here. Or how about the guy who read a book and then committed murders just like the story of the book. Ban the book? Again, that's your logic here.