Well Tony - Steve appears to have leaped off that fence.

[pctower]

What happened Phil, did I hit a raw nerve?

eddy and neutron being taken seriously? By who? eddy has been banned from the cable forum. If he pushes his luck, he might be banned from the site altogether.

Have you forgotten Rod M's proposed mission statement for Cable Asylum? Only postive experiences with cables would be discussed. Think good thoughts. Think happy thoughts. And when you think cables, you know what you are supposed to do. And now a word from our sponsors...

"The reality is you don't have the guts to go over there and fight for what you believe."

Why should I help them sell cables? If I post what I think which is that their product is worthless and they have no scientific proof based on measurements or double blind tests to suggest otherwise to any rational consumer, I would be banned immediately. There is nothing to fight for if the only purpose of a web site is to advertise for legitimacy of the audiophile cable industry. They control the horizontal. They control the vertical. Their view is the only one allowed. Get it yet? I didn't think so.

CA is a lost cause. But the fight is waged elsewhere including Tweaks, Prophead and General.

You have not produced a speck of evidence that Rod M has any financial interest in the sale of cables.

I don't agree with much of what Rod does. On the other hand, my respect for truth is what drives me to challenge your foolish and reckless allegations that are wholly unsupported other than through the most tenuous of circumstantial evidence. I have yet to see one other person (other than me when I raised the possibility - did not make the allegation - in response to one particularly eggregious post by Rod M over at Prophead) ever give the slightest credence to your claim that Rod's behavior is governed by a financial interest in selling cables.

The wholly unsupported claims you make about Rod and his motivations are just as baseless and foolish as the claims of many yeasayers.

I would have far more respect for you and your claims if you merely said that Rod behaves as if he has a financial interest in selling cables, while making it clear you have no direct or reliable proof that he does. But that is expecting far too much from an out-of-control mad man.

[skeptic]

"But that is expecting far too much from an out-of-control mad man."

I love it. I just love it.

An attorney who says he would like to see criminal laws rolled back on one thread, defending people who steal money legally on another, and then protesting that he disagrees with them on a third. How Orwellian.

I have no PROOF of anything. It's an opinion. I look at the facts, try to sort them out in a mosaic that is coherent and makes sense, and try to come to the most logical conclusion, possibly the only one that explains someone's behavior and statements. Does Rod M want to sell cables? Probably not. What he wants is to keep his financial supporters happy. Do they want to sell cables? You bet they do. But they and he are smart enough to know that on a site like AA you don't say "buy my cables because they are wonderful." That might work with a small percentage of contributors but it would chase many others away and badly discredit the site. Instead, it paints a facade of an open discussion forum just like this one with just one or two more restrictive rules. Only in those instances where direct confrontation with the final goal is unavoidable is it necessary to take a heavy hand. Otherwise it is just like any other discussion site. That's what Dubczek wanted in 1968. That's what Gorbachev wanted in 1990. Tyranny with a smiley face. I don't care if you like to vacation on the Black Sea. Be my guest. They'll be only too happy to mete out all of the punishment you can take until they tire of you. And apparantly you will be just too happy to receive it because just like a bad little boy creating mischief, you demand attention even if it is not the kind of attention you hope for. They don't take you seriously there. I don't take you seriously here. That's one thing we have in common.

[pctower]

"But that is expecting far too much from an out-of-control mad man."

I love it. I just love it.

An attorney who says he would like to see criminal laws rolled back on one thread, defending people who steal money legally on another, and then protesting that he disagrees with them on a third. How Orwellian.

I have no PROOF of anything. It's an opinion. I look at the facts, try to sort them out in a mosaic that is coherent and makes sense, and try to come to the most logical conclusion, possibly the only one that explains someone's behavior and statements. Does Rod M want to sell cables? Probably not. What he wants is to keep his financial supporters happy. Do they want to sell cables? You bet they do. But they and he are smart enough to know that on a site like AA you don't say "buy my cables because they are wonderful." That might work with a small percentage of contributors but it would chase many others away and badly discredit the site. Instead, it paints a facade of an open discussion forum just like this one with just one or two more restrictive rules. Only in those instances where direct confrontation with the final goal is unavoidable is it necessary to take a heavy hand. Otherwise it is just like any other discussion site. That's what Dubczek wanted in 1968. That's what Gorbachev wanted in 1990. Tyranny with a smiley face. I don't care if you like to vacation on the Black Sea. Be my guest. They'll be only too happy to mete out all of the punishment you can take until they tire of you. And apparantly you will be just too happy to receive it because just like a bad little boy creating mischief, you demand attention even if it is not the kind of attention you hope for. They don't take you seriously there. I don't take you seriously here. That's one thing we have in common.

I have no PROOF of anything. It's an opinion.

And that was precisely my point all along.