I need help with audio interconnects????

[okiemax]

What did Bruno do, exactely? He did a lot of great measurements.
Where is his DBT listening tests for interconnects? Oh, nowhere to be found? And he makes statements for audibility? I don't think so. Oh, perhaps he is making claims for measured differences in certain applications and what should be avoided. Anything about interconnects? Really? Or just Mic cable applications and impedance mismatches. Oh, that would apply to the passive preamp junks that are passed off as something good.

Your comments should be addressed to Putzeys. I don't speak for him. However, I didn't get the impression Putzeys' article was limited to mic cables. If you are saying that was the case, please explain why.

[mtrycraft]

Your comments should be addressed to Putzeys. I don't speak for him. However, I didn't get the impression Putzeys' article was limited to mic cables. If you are saying that was the case, please explain why.

No, my comments don't need to be addressed to him, yet. He explained under what condition a cable may be affected to a degree that may be audible.
They are the ones that are affected by the conditions he described, moving cables, driven by a cap type mic. But, if you replicate these whipping around with your cable to the amp, it may, or not, depending on impedances, have a bearing on the case. Mic cables are the ones that are abused, not interconnects.

Did you read the article carefully?
Does your interconnects move about as a mic cable would walking around on the stage being whipped about?

Is your preamp/amp imedances falls into his category to avoid? Not hardly.
Where is the evidence for audible difference based on listening?

[okiemax]

No, my comments don't need to be addressed to him, yet. He explained under what condition a cable may be affected to a degree that may be audible.
They are the ones that are affected by the conditions he described, moving cables, driven by a cap type mic. But, if you replicate these whipping around with your cable to the amp, it may, or not, depending on impedances, have a bearing on the case. Mic cables are the ones that are abused, not interconnects.

Did you read the article carefully?
Does your interconnects move about as a mic cable would walking around on the stage being whipped about?

Is your preamp/amp imedances falls into his category to avoid? Not hardly.
Where is the evidence for audible difference based on listening?

Gimme a break, mtrycraft! I got the part about mic cables being moved around. Next time I have a mic in my hand I will try to remain motionless. Should I also give up playing jump rope to the music with my speaker cables?

I didn't know silver was used in some mic cables before reading the article. Putzeys refers to the "brightness often attributed to teflon silver cables." I wonder if they are bright only when they are being moved or have recently been moved. I tried some silver interconnects between my CD player and my integrated amp, and I thought they were too bright, so I returned them. Now I'm thinking maybe I moved those cables around too much before installing them, or it could have been that 500 miles bouncing up and down in the back of the UPS truck before arrival.

Putzeys may or may not agree with everything DellaSala said in that epilogue to Putzeys' article. I don't know. I do wonder why DellaSala thought the epilogue was necessary.

[mtrycraft]

Gimme a break, mtrycraft! I got the part about mic cables being moved around. Next time I have a mic in my hand I will try to remain motionless. Should I also give up playing jump rope to the music with my speaker cables?

I didn't know silver was used in some mic cables before reading the article. Putzeys refers to the "brightness often attributed to teflon silver cables." I wonder if they are bright only when they are being moved or have recently been moved. I tried some silver interconnects between my CD player and my integrated amp, and I thought they were too bright, so I returned them. Now I'm thinking maybe I moved those cables around too much before installing them, or it could have been that 500 miles bouncing up and down in the back of the UPS truck before arrival.

Putzeys may or may not agree with everything DellaSala said in that epilogue to Putzeys' article. I don't know. I do wonder why DellaSala thought the epilogue was necessary.

You give me a break. Are all the interconnect recommendations being asked for are for mic cable? Any? One such request? No. So it is irrelevant what he has measured in such cables when in such abused conditions when it comes to interconnects between CD and amp, isn't it? And, he found nothing in those interconnects, nothing. End of chapter.

Putzeys didn't include teflon and silver beacuse they are in mic cables but because audiophiles use them in their regular interconnects and report those perceptions. He just extended the range of operations beyond what is encountered in a system and tried to explain away the perceived differences. Does not apply unless in a mic type setup. Does not apply in these discussions as that is not what is being discussed here, no mic cable discussed. So, he really has not explained away perceived differences as he has yet to demonstrate those audible differeences in standard interconnect usages just accepted reports as being factual. Yet, it appears, people extrapolate that mic cable measurements to ordinary interconnects. Does not apply.
But what do I know?

[okiemax]

You give me a break. Are all the interconnect recommendations being asked for are for mic cable? Any? One such request? No. So it is irrelevant what he has measured in such cables when in such abused conditions when it comes to interconnects between CD and amp, isn't it? And, he found nothing in those interconnects, nothing. End of chapter.

Putzeys didn't include teflon and silver beacuse they are in mic cables but because audiophiles use them in their regular interconnects and report those perceptions. He just extended the range of operations beyond what is encountered in a system and tried to explain away the perceived differences. Does not apply unless in a mic type setup. Does not apply in these discussions as that is not what is being discussed here, no mic cable discussed. So, he really has not explained away perceived differences as he has yet to demonstrate those audible differeences in standard interconnect usages just accepted reports as being factual. Yet, it appears, people extrapolate that mic cable measurements to ordinary interconnects. Does not apply.
But what do I know?

Mtrycraft, there is no need for you to get hysterical about what I have said about Putzeys' article and DellaSala's epilogue. Is it outrageous for me to say I didn't get the impression the article was limited to mic cables and question whether Putzeys agrees with the epilogue? What else did I do?

[pctower]

Mtrycraft, there is no need for you to get hysterical about what I have said about Putzeys' article and DellaSala's epilogue. Is it outrageous for me to say I didn't get the impression the article was limited to mic cables and question whether Putzeys agrees with the epilogue? What else did I do?

"But what do I know?"

How come you never throw me a good straight line?