Tweak rediscovered

[jrhymeammo]

SID is just a green plastic sheet you place on top of a CD.

I'm glad it worked for ya, JM.

I'm not absolutely certain if it makes any improvement in my system, but I do use it everytime I play a CD. It helps me remind myself that I should never buy anything stupid, and just enjoy music.

It does play scratched CDs better for some odd reason.

JRA

[Feanor]

SID is just a green plastic sheet you place on top of a CD.

I'm glad it worked for ya, JM.

I'm not absolutely certain if it makes any improvement in my system, but I do use it everytime I play a CD. It helps me remind myself that I should never buy anything stupid, and just enjoy music.

It does play scratched CDs better for some odd reason.

JRA

The efficacy of the device would be difficult to disprove, then again ...

For this to work as you say, your CDP would have to be continually misreading your CDs, and/or insinuating jitter, as a result of light scattering or disc bouncing. My CDP doesn't seem to have the problem since it sounds indistigushable from computer file ripped from the same CD. Here I'm speaking of the CDP and computer output feeding the same DAC. The computer file was using EAC, thereby essentially a bit-perfect transcription, and played back by Foobar2000 via ASIO drivers which is considered a relativel relatively jitter-free method.

[JohnMichael]

The efficacy of the device would be difficult to disprove, then again ...

For this to work as you say, your CDP would have to be continually misreading your CDs, and/or insinuating jitter, as a result of light scattering or disc bouncing. My CDP doesn't seem to have the problem since it sounds indistigushable from computer file ripped from the same CD. Here I'm speaking of the CDP and computer output feeding the same DAC. The computer file was using EAC, thereby essentially a bit-perfect transcription, and played back by Foobar2000 via ASIO drivers which is considered a relativel relatively jitter-free method.

I was reporting what I heard and what I have read about the device. It would be an easy demonstration to show it works in my system. Play a song on a disc without it and then place the disc and replay. The difference is audible.

[emaidel]

Around 1984, when I was working for BSR (who owned ADC and dbx at the time), we were investigating new products for distribution, when a compact disc "disc stabilizer" was submitted for consideration. It was a flat, thin rubber mat that sat on top of a CD and was designed to "stabilize" somehow or other the CD player's laser, and improve sonic performance.

Most of us thought this entire concept was nothing short of ridiculous, but when we tried it out, we all heard a difference. In many cases, in which we played a disc first with, and then without the stabilizer, regardless of who was listening, everyone said that the sound was better with the stabilizer in use. It's important to note that no one knew which one was listening to: either with or without, as that was kept secret from all listening. So, the conclusion was that the stabilizer actually worked.

Still, at $9.95 retail for a flat piece of rubber, we thought the item would have been laughed off the shelves. Silly us, considering that a sheet of plastic (the SID) sells for $39, and does the same thing.

And the "disc stabilizer," just like the SID, wouldn't work in changers.

[E-Stat]

And the "disc stabilizer," just like the SID, wouldn't work in changers.

Neither does it work with one of my CDPs, a Pioneer PD-54 that uses a "stable platter" which looks like a little turntable. You place the CD upside down to load.

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[E-Stat]

I was reporting what I heard and what I have read about the device. It would be an easy demonstration to show it works in my system. Play a song on a disc without it and then place the disc and replay. The difference is audible.

I use one, too with the GamuT player.

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[Feanor]

I was reporting what I heard and what I have read about the device. It would be an easy demonstration to show it works in my system. Play a song on a disc without it and then place the disc and replay. The difference is audible.

I headed off to Music Direct to buy one. I figured, heck, I can squander $20 or so. WTF was I thinking!?! US$39.00, geez.

If this thing works, my bet would be that it's mainly jitter reduction. Whether of not jitter is a factor in a given situation depends on a lot of things, or so I'm given to understand. My wallet thanks me that I can't hear a lot of the things people claim make an improvement. No, it's true: I'm deaf, at least above 10kHz, plus I have tinnitis. But don't weep for me; it's saved me a lot of bucks.

[jrhymeammo]

I headed off to Music Direct to buy one. I figured, heck, I can squander $20 or so. WTF was I thinking!?! US$39.00, geez.

Why didnt you tell me? I woulda just sent it to ya to try it out. I offered rental to blackraven, but he was never interested. Guess I shoulda expressed in this thread, instead of a PM.

Here is where da Nightmare starts. After you listen to it, you gotta decide which side of SID sounds best.

Peace,

[jim goulding]

Fe and E are down. And I got a problem stated elsewhere. I gotta be game..

[Feanor]

Why didnt you tell me? I woulda just sent it to ya to try it out. I offered rental to blackraven, but he was never interested. Guess I shoulda expressed in this thread, instead of a PM.

Here is where da Nightmare starts. After you listen to it, you gotta decide which side of SID sounds best.

Peace,

JRA, actually, based on the high praise here, I reconciled myself to the $40 price. But when I went back to Music Direct and started to order, I discovered that the miminum shipping was going to be $34 to Canada. That was for UPS Expedited or something; that might a reasonable method for an amplifier, but it's ridiculous for something that could be shipped letter post.