Quote Originally Posted by FLZapped
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HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA - where do you think passive crossovers come from?
A passive crossover is device whose intent is to change frequency response. A cable is a device usually crafted NOT to change frequency response. There is little humor in your statement and even less information.

Quote Originally Posted by FLZapped
WOW! You have just argued against yourself. The description above is exactly what happens with the description below.
Perhaps if you read the post instead of a knee jerk response, I never claimed frequency response changes, I used the word apparently in a very specific way, I also described exactly what I hear in the previous sentence.

Quote Originally Posted by FLZapped
And if you don't use RCL, what ARE you going to use? Even transmission lines are modeled as RCL structures. Want to use their conjugate, go right ahead, but at some point, you're going to return to RCL.
The models used for communications cables do use distributed reactance's to model loss (and only loss), that model does not explain why communications cables are twisted for example (unless they are coaxial) but they always are. That model does not deal accurately with skin effect nor does it deal with dielectric absorption. The fact that a sub set of cable behavior can be modeled with an RCL analogy does not rule out that cables have many other performance issues. In other words the model is far from complete. So since the cable effect is poorly understood you say it therefore can't exist. The creation of the universe is poorly understood, nevertheless I am here.

Once again the opposition attempts, as always, to present an explanation for the wrong question. And then proceed to go on at great length to repeat that the wrong explanation isn't an explanation at all - duh.

Let me re-state: ABX testing has PROOVED(!) that differences exist. The job is to find out what causes them. Technologists examined RLC parameters and pretty much concluded that those are extremely unlikely to account for the differences.

So no matter how often it is stated that RLC does not explain cable differences this does not negate the established fact that there are differences, it only confirms that RLC is probably not the cause.