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HHHm interesting that you bring up the mechanical vibration....Is that associated with internal vibrations as opposed to outside vibrations?
I ask because the PL-540 that i use, has an ,either, MDF or an HDF plinth.
But my Technics SL DQ3 has a plastic plinth which is hollow, where as the Pioneer is solid hence heavier than the technics.
Which would be better able to keep the needle isolated as much as possible from vibrations. Both internal and external.
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got two new tables , more info requested later.:smilewinkgrin:
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TTWeight 600gram is my current favorite vinyl rig
http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/s/f/1248739383.jpg
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Nice weight. Where is it? Just kidding. I'm surprised I don't see a center clamp.
I see the very nice copper ring. I've been hearing very good things about them. Started to spring for one and decided it was time to get the Oracle I always wanted. My VPI is now sale pending! A buddy has desired it for years. I'm giving him his chance.
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You are absolutely correct. It does seem a bit odd to see a ring without a clamp.
It's usually the other way around.
I've been a bit picky on which type of clamp/weight to use, but I think I've finally
decided to weigh it down, instead of clamping or sealing it against the spindle.
My disposable income has been depleted for this month, so it would have to wait a couple of weeks.
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I think I'm going to get one from Bren1.
http://www.bren1recordclamp.com/
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Do you have any recommendation on affordable weights?
The one from TTWeights Audio is affordable as well, but don't care to pay higher S&H.
JRA
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I have found two more tables. Since i have started this thread. ones a pioneer pl 510 and the othre ones a rotel , Of which i dont remember the model number. Maybe ill post pics of them later.
As well as one of the current vinyl rig. I have since added new spekers to the set up.dont remember the model on it.
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You are absolutely correct. It does seem a bit odd to see a ring without a clamp.
It's usually the other way around.
I've been a bit picky on which type of clamp/weight to use, but I think I've finally
decided to weigh it down, instead of clamping or sealing it against the spindle.
My disposable income has been depleted for this month, so it would have to wait a couple of weeks.
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I think I'm going to get one from Bren1.
http://www.bren1recordclamp.com/
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Do you have any recommendation on affordable weights?
The one from TTWeights Audio is affordable as well, but don't care to pay higher S&H.
JRA
The Planax clamp I purchased years ago works very well. Being a clamp I can adjust how much pressure to use. I haven't seen another in quite a while.
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I have just recently added a Sorbogel mat on my glass platter and for now I have stopped using my clamp. I think I'm getting a little smoother highs.
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I have just recently added a Sorbogel mat on my glass platter and for now I have stopped using my clamp. I think I'm getting a little smoother highs.
Update...I'm also getting a very tenacious residue on my records.:19:
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When I was a kid my father had a Technics turntable that in memory seemed to be built well and it sounded good. He always put the best stylus's he could get on it.He did not have a outboard preamp because most of the integrated amps back then came equiped with onboard preamps. My question is how do these vintage Technics units compare to todays stuff. I am thinking of exploring the world of vinyl again after many years and do not have the product knowledge of what is good out there now. But I have seen a few vintage Technics turntables for sale on different sites. I know that Technics as a brand is not all that great anymore but the older turntables interest me. If you guys could help me please do and also inform me of some of the better for the money outboard preamps out there since I use a yamaha receiver as a preamp right now and it does not have phono stage on it. Thanks :0:
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got yet another tt, Last weekend. PIcs coming...and here they are
its a kenwood KD 2055. It has a marble base, very solid. , with the ortofon super om 10 it is very sweet. But the auto return needs a new belt for it to function.
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I've heard this turntable paly and it sounds as good as it looks. Its one of the most revealing turntables I've ever heard.
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I always had a soft spot fer Micro Seiki.....That one there, 3dp is shore purty!
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OOH!!! Both those tables look sweet. Lots of metal. And looks very solid. Sweet!
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What brand is this table? Its a very nice looking table. I remember i was going to respond to this post, But i got distracted. 600 grams would turn out to how many pounds i wonder.
Thank you all who posted their favorite TT. And im sure there are more people who have favorites theyve heard. So if you have the time, Show us what is your favorite. Thank you.
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600 grams would turn out to how many pounds i wonder.
Is that American pounds or British pounds? Just jokin'...................
600g/454(g/lb) = 1.32lbs
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The glass platter on a Rega weighs about 3 or 4 American pounds, so I would think turntables must not be that sensitive about the weight on top.
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The glass platter on a Rega weighs about 3 or 4 American pounds, so I would think turntables must not be that sensitive about the weight on top.
Generally the heavier the platter the more stable the speed would be. Of course it would take a motor with more torque to get it up to speed. In theory, heavier platters would also reject vibrations better as well as reducing most resonance in the platter.
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In theory, heavier platters would also reject vibrations better as well as reducing most resonance in the platter.
It's a valid theory in the context of a single material, but the Pro-Ject Acryl-It platter weighs about half as much as glass and resonates less.
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It's a valid theory in the context of a single material, but the Pro-Ject Acryl-It platter weighs about half as much as glass and resonates less.
To steal Auricauricle's tag line..............
"The great tragedy of science--the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact."--T. Huxley
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Pretty much everyone upgrades their glass platter to Acrylic - even on Rega tables with glass like the P-3.
Heavy stores energy longer releasing it later smudging the sound - or as some turntable and speaker makers believe. My turntables is of the design that they want to get rid of energy as fast as possible and damping is not a good idea - that goes for their speakers and CD player designs. Slowly I see other makers gravitating to some of these approaches.
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What brand is this table? Its a very nice looking table. I remember i was going to respond to this post, But i got distracted. 600 grams would turn out to how many pounds i wonder.
Thank you all who posted their favorite TT. And im sure there are more people who have favorites theyve heard. So if you have the time, Show us what is your favorite. Thank you.
It's a Technics SL-1200mk2 with Rega RB-250 w/ some mods.
I've recently got LP weight by the same company that weights 454 grams (1 lb) bringing the total pressure to over 1kg (2.2+ lbs).
TTweight has come out with Perriphery ring for SL-1200 TT, but they are less than 300grams. I don't think 300 grams would offer sufficient pressure to counter warp. 600gram and up will be neccesary, especially for thicker/stiffer LP. Problem is that 600 gram cannot be fitted due to intereferance of on/off swtich knob. I took off the switch cover to meet required clearance. I couldn't go any higher on platter mat thickness due to limited height of the spindle. It's a great sounding deck, but as usual I'm looking to upgrade the tonearm. Will see.
Thanks
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Im such a noob in these matters. The jargon escapes me. But im still learning about these different things. Its great i like it..:D
Nver would have thought it is aTechnics SL-1200 mk2. Or any technics for that matter. Its a fine looking table.:music:
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Is that American pounds or British pounds? Just jokin'...................
600g/454(g/lb) = 1.32lbs
funny stuff!:out:
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Has anyone here shown interest in K&K Maxxed Out phono stage with upgrades? It looks very similar to Art Audio Vinyl Reference....
JRA
After further research, it seems Kevin from K&K audio designed both the Vinyl Reference and K&K phono stage. But the Maxxed-Out phono is priced at less than 1/2 of the Vinyl Reference. Of course the design isn't exactly the same, but it is starting to look more and more like my next big upgrade.
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