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    VTA adjustment

    So, what do you think about my special high-tech VTA adjustment?



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    Quote Originally Posted by 02audionoob
    So, what do you think about my special high-tech VTA adjustment?



    See the white washers. If they don't work, I'm out 65 cents.
    Why did you raise it that high? And can you take a picture of the whole table? I like audio porn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchmon
    Why did you raise it that high? And can you take a picture of the whole table? I like audio porn.
    Because the Goldring 1042 is about 3 mm taller than the Rega Elys and rides too low to have the tail down.



    Here it is with the Elys...


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    Cool...so you got rid of the MH MMF 5.1? How is the Rega in comparison to the 5.1? Does it leave the 5.1 in the dust? Is the Rega product a better product than Pro-Ject? OR about the same?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 02audionoob
    So, what do you think about my special high-tech VTA adjustment?
    I would've said..."forget about the VTA, but more importantly when did you get a RB700?". Then I saw a pic of your P5. Congrats and nice grab
    Did you get one with glass platter? Platter doesn't look like glass for some reason.

    Nice combination of granite and hockey pucks as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrhymeammo
    I would've said..."forget about the VTA, but more importantly when did you get a RB700?". Then I saw a pic of your P5. Congrats and nice grab
    Did you get one with glass platter? Platter doesn't look like glass for some reason.

    Nice combination of granite and hockey pucks as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrhymeammo
    I would've said..."forget about the VTA, but more importantly when did you get a RB700?". Then I saw a pic of your P5. Congrats and nice grab
    Did you get one with glass platter? Platter doesn't look like glass for some reason.

    Nice combination of granite and hockey pucks as well.

    JRA
    Thanks for the kudos. That's not granite, though...it's particle board with a matte-finish black laminate face. The platter is indeed glass.

    And a few more photos, although I can't get enough light at this time of day...




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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchmon
    Cool...so you got rid of the MH MMF 5.1? How is the Rega in comparison to the 5.1? Does it leave the 5.1 in the dust? Is the Rega product a better product than Pro-Ject? OR about the same?
    My Music Hall is a MMF-5, as opposed to 5.1. On the 5.1, they changed to a metal platter and upgraded to a higher-level Pro-Ject arm. I do still have it. It needs a new motor, which I currently have on order from Roy Hall, but it's still working...just not hooked up at the moment. The MMF-5 has its good points and with the Goldring 1042 really sounds great to me. The 1042 was actually a tiny bit of an upgrade to my ears over the more-expensive Eroica. I figure it's compliance/mass-related.

    The P5 has its moments when it clearly separates itself from the MMF-5 with either cartridge. It doesn't seem to prefer one cartridge over the other, like the MMF-5 does. It also produces an undoubtedly more authoritative sound on the lows. The MMF-5 is great on the mids and loses out to the P5 on the highs. I guess what I'm saying is the MMF-5 still sounds great, especially in the mids...which is what I look for most...but the P5 is cleary a cut above.

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    That's a very nice table and arm you've got there. The VTA adjuster is quite ingenious. Have you considered an after market VTA adjuster?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeE SP9
    That's a very nice table and arm you've got there. The VTA adjuster is quite ingenious. Have you considered an after market VTA adjuster?
    Indeed I have. I'm planning to get the Rega one with three or four different heights on one device.

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    Lookin good, lookin good! Man those photos are badazz. The arm looks so tough. Was it a major PITA to swap carts?

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    How about that reflection of the LP on the wall...that's semi-cool. Oddly enough, when I installed the 1042 in the same spot where the Elys was, it was almost just right. The front edge of the 1042 is wide and straight, so adjusting it from there to the Baerwald protractor went quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 02audionoob
    Because the Goldring 1042 is about 3 mm taller than the Rega Elys and rides too low to have the tail down.



    Here it is with the Elys...

    Wow...just fantastic....not only am I going nuts over you table, I am drooling all over the vintage Rantz....noob, my man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchmon
    Wow...just fantastic....not only am I going nuts over you table, I am drooling all over the vintage Rantz....noob, my man!
    Those older Marantz did have a mystique about them. They were what every guy wanted in his audio setup. Nice table Noob. Ingenious way of solving your VTA problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 02audionoob
    My Music Hall is a MMF-5, as opposed to 5.1. On the 5.1, they changed to a metal platter and upgraded to a higher-level Pro-Ject arm. I do still have it. It needs a new motor, which I currently have on order from Roy Hall, but it's still working...just not hooked up at the moment. The MMF-5 has its good points and with the Goldring 1042 really sounds great to me. The 1042 was actually a tiny bit of an upgrade to my ears over the more-expensive Eroica. I figure it's compliance/mass-related.

    The P5 has its moments when it clearly separates itself from the MMF-5 with either cartridge. It doesn't seem to prefer one cartridge over the other, like the MMF-5 does. It also produces an undoubtedly more authoritative sound on the lows. The MMF-5 is great on the mids and loses out to the P5 on the highs. I guess what I'm saying is the MMF-5 still sounds great, especially in the mids...which is what I look for most...but the P5 is cleary a cut above.
    Actually I should not have asked for a comparison of the two tables seeing that the P5 really out classes the MMF 5. I think a better match for the P5 would be the Pro-Ject 2 Xperience Classic table seeing its in the same price rang as the P5.
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    noob...not a nice as your table, but heres the table the missus surprised me with.



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    Hey PoppaC what model techics do you have? Look at this...you think its worth it?

    http://stlouis.craigslist.org/ele/1781521399.html
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    We'll have to let the Marantz in on the glamor shots...


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    Do you use the Rantz as a back up or do you have it integrated into your two channel?...shes a beauty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchmon
    Do you use the Rantz as a back up or do you have it integrated into your two channel?...shes a beauty.
    I have two complete systems in the same room. I use the Marantz for short listens, recording from my Technics linear tracker to CD on the Pioneer recorder below it, listening to mono records, recording to a computer about 8 feet away and for wireless from a computer on the other side of the room. The remote for that is on the floor to the left. The Marantz gets a lot of use.

    The Audio Research amp on the right handles the primary CD player, turntable and a Blu-ray outside this photo. It also does part time with the little laptop.



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    Noob that set up is killer! Are those two mono blocks on the lower right? That Marantz is enviably lustworthy. You have the bridge of the old school and new school

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    Frenchmon,

    Your set up is crazy nice as well. Love the sleek look and the monolith clamp. You never told me how what your first impression of the 2M Red was/is? It looks great in that setup, and I love the simple design!

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enochrome
    Noob that set up is killer! Are those two mono blocks on the lower right? That Marantz is enviably lustworthy. You have the bridge of the old school and new school
    The two components in the lower right are a PS Audio GCPH and PS Audio Digital Link III. It's the phono preamp and the DAC.

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    Nice!! That is a massive phono pre with must sound incredible.
    Speaking of preamps, heard anything about the Rotel RC 980BX?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchmon
    Hey PoppaC what model techics do you have? Look at this...you think its worth it?

    http://stlouis.craigslist.org/ele/1781521399.html
    For 10 bucks?!? Of course, why not?

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