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    Quote Originally Posted by markw
    Since you adamantly prefer tubes,they must add something to the music that you feel is missing from sold-state units. That's all well and good, but it still seems that that "added" something is an additive quality. What would one call that?
    That depends on the way you hear it. You are assuming that the perception is that the tube is adding something while my perception is that the SS is "missing" something - most of everything that matters.

    My perception of the sound mirrors this "The word “semiconductor” really means what it says and it says it all, “half”-conductor, sonically this could be translated to mean half the signal! Which is really what it sounds like. Pure and simple, transistors are highly un-linear and need a lot of correction (feedback of some sort) to have a bandwidth wide enough to be able to reproduce any music signals, they are not natural voltage amplifiers." And I would add as a result don't sound natural.

    People tend to prefer tubes because they sound more natural, more like instruments, more like voices, more like real music. Most people under the age of 50 grew up on solid state amplification and while Tubes may "add" some unwanted things I would rather that than take out some noise but gut chunks of the music signal.

    SS typically all sounds the same. There is a reason why no one passes double blind listening experiemnts because while the very same SS supporter will dump in tube amps they will happily tell people that spending $30,000 on a top bryston sounds SO MUCH better than a 3BSST. Which in reality that person will NEVER pass a blind test EVER. The same people who trust the "science" of SS is best will then throw it out and "trust" their ears that the $30k bryston is better sounding. That is truly hilarious and patently hypocritical.

    Tubes and SET are what many audiophiles end up with after owning the likes of Bryston. This is not a retro movement with 70 year olds longing for the old days of tubes out of nostalgia. Actually some of the older farts probably need the shrieking treble of SS to help out their loss of HF hearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    That depends on the way you hear it. You are assuming that the perception is that the tube is adding something while my perception is that the SS is "missing" something - most of everything that matters.

    My perception of the sound mirrors this "The word “semiconductor” really means what it says and it says it all, “half”-conductor, sonically this could be translated to mean half the signal! Which is really what it sounds like. Pure and simple, transistors are highly un-linear and need a lot of correction (feedback of some sort) to have a bandwidth wide enough to be able to reproduce any music signals, they are not natural voltage amplifiers." And I would add as a result don't sound natural.

    People tend to prefer tubes because they sound more natural, more like instruments, more like voices, more like real music. Most people under the age of 50 grew up on solid state amplification and while Tubes may "add" some unwanted things I would rather that than take out some noise but gut chunks of the music signal.

    SS typically all sounds the same. There is a reason why no one passes double blind listening experiemnts because while the very same SS supporter will dump in tube amps they will happily tell people that spending $30,000 on a top bryston sounds SO MUCH better than a 3BSST. Which in reality that person will NEVER pass a blind test EVER. The same people who trust the "science" of SS is best will then throw it out and "trust" their ears that the $30k bryston is better sounding. That is truly hilarious and patently hypocritical.

    Tubes and SET are what many audiophiles end up with after owning the likes of Bryston. This is not a retro movement with 70 year olds longing for the old days of tubes out of nostalgia. Actually some of the older farts probably need the shrieking treble of SS to help out their loss of HF hearing.
    As I said earlier:

    Quote Originally Posted by Markw
    But, hey, it's all good. Some people prefer to slather mushrooms, onions, and steak sauce on a fine aged porterhouse. As long as it's not my steak, what difference is it to me? And, if one prefers their music with just a smidgen of even order harmonics, that's no skin off my teeth either.

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