Yamaha AX-570 amp

Hi. I have this old 100 watt/channel amp which I bought more than 20 years ago. Twice now I have opened it up and tried to clean the switches and pots the best I can using Deoxit because one of the channels would cut out. I am pretty sure it was the input selector switch that is the problem because if I messed around with it, the channel would temporarily come back on.

But each time after just a couple months the problem returns. Is there any way to repair this unit or is it time for a new amp? Thanks.

PS- Anyone else have a helluva time typing text into this dialog box?

I'd say it depends on how well you like the amp, and to a lesser extent your listening habits, like are you going to stream at some point etc. If you really like the amp it would be worth the expense of taking it to the shop, they may have to replace the switch or some other issue. If thinking of modernizing or just a change, a malfunctioning amp is as good of an excuse as any and the money for the repair bill would go a good portion toward the new amp. What is the rest of your system?

You could get into a new NAD or Cambridge audio some over $300.00 and go from there. You can go green and small with something like the new Pro-Ject MAIA, although not a lot of power. Cambridge Audio has a nice receiver with built in DAC for around $599.00, SR-20.

I sometimes have difficulty typing in the dialog box but I thought it due to my adaptice software. The site has been qurky for a long time. Sometimes I get emails tellingme of replies, sometimes I won't get one for months. It's were I started though so I stick around :)

I agree with Mr Peabody that you ought to weigh the cost of repair vs. the cost and improved functionality of a new product. Very often today it simply isn't worthwhile to repair, (unfortunately).

Yamaha has a very good Support website where you might find authorized service centers, service manuals, and parts: see here ... Support - Yamaha United States. Don't forget that shipping could be part of the repair cost if there is no local repair depot.

Thanks guys. I had just upgraded to some decent speakers 2 years ago. They are Golden Ear Triton-3s. As much as I would like to be a real audiophile, I just can't justify a system that costs 10s of thousands of $. I'd be willing to spend $1500 or so to get a good amp but I am such a newbie that I don't know a thing about matching up an amp to my speakers, etc. Only other audio component is a Yamaha CD player. I have a turntable but I really don't see myself getting seriously back into vinyl. I would like to be able to connect an I-pod to the amp, too, and my TV. Not into surround sound, though, just stereo is fine to me.

What exactly does the DAC feature do for you? Thanks so much.

A DAC, converts a digital signal to an analog signal (your Turntable puts out an analog signal). Every CD player has one built in. DAC's really affect the sound. Most, if not all DAC's today have a USB input so you can play computer music. Most also have an digital optical or Digital Coax input so that you can connect the digital out of a CD, DVD player, TV etc. to the DAC. DAC's come in all sizes and price points. They are a must for computer music or it you want to upgrade the sound of your CD player if it has a digital out put. You can buy a DAC and use the CD player as a transport to send the music to the DAC by passing the internal DAC of the CD player.

For $1500 you can buy a very nice amp or integrated amp.

Here is one such integrated, it has a nice built in DAC and lots of power to drive those inefficient speakers. I like the sound of Peach Tree gear.

Amplifier with DAC - nova220SE Amplifier DAC with Tube | Peachtree Audio

Here is a nice brief review-

Peachtree nova220SE Integrated Amplifier – Reviews | TONEAudio MAGAZINE

Here is a great buy for $1399 with free shipping-

Peachtree Audio NOVA220SE Integrated Amplifier with DAC | eBay

The only draw back is that it only has 1 analog input but schiit audio makes a nice analog input selector for $49.

Here is another nice integrated amp without a DAC. I have not heard this one but I have heard other NAD gear. Nice sound and well built.

NAD C 375BEE Integrated Amp at Music Direct

Thank you, Raven. Integrated amp means no separate pre-amp, right? If so, I'm sure that's the way I'd go. The Triton-3 speakers are designed for 20-400w/channel and 8 Ohm impedance (according to the specs in the manual) and 90dB efficiency. I don't really know what the efficiency means. What would I look for in finding an amp that is compatible with these speakers?

An integrated amp has a preamp and amp in one chassis.

Interesting that the Triton 3 speakers have a sensitivity of 90dB. I read in one review that it was 85dB. Obviously the review was wrong or I read it wrong. 90dB is very good and the speakers should be easy to drive. I still like a lot of power for dynamics.

Do you know if there's away to play music from an I-pod through the Peachtree?

the tritons are a nice choice, you'd be rewarded with a nice amp. The built in DAC would play the music from an iPod, the exact particulars of now I'm not sure as I haven't gotten into the streaming thing.

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the tritons are a nice choice, you'd be rewarded with a nice amp. The built in DAC would play the music from an iPod, the exact particulars of now I'm not sure as I haven't gotten into the streaming thing.

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Thanks. I've read that music in mp3 format is compacted and that limits the quality of the sound. If the mp3 files are used to burn a CD, does that do anything to improve the quality of the music output?

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Thanks. I've read that music in mp3 format is compacted and that limits the quality of the sound. If the mp3 files are used to burn a CD, does that do anything to improve the quality of the music output?

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No, not really. Once compressed to a "lossy" format like MP3 the original detail can never be restored. Simply put, ALWAYS buy ONLY music of, 16 bit / 44.1 kHz resolution; likewise rip CDs only to this resolution. There are number of different "Lossless" formats; the most popular is FLAC but it might be more convenient to ALAC format, (files use an M4A extension), if you are using iTunes or an Apple device.

You might want a "lossy" format on your portable device to save storage space. However only ever buy 16/44.1 or better resolution; readily available programs can copy you "lossless" files to "lossy" files for the portable device.

That's informative. Thanks.

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Is there any way to repair this unit or is it time for a new amp? Thanks.

PS- Anyone else have a helluva time typing text into this dialog box?

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Hi, you said you had bought this Yamaha AX-570 amp for more than 20 years. Wow, so old, and i think it's better for you to change a new one. But if this one is special to you and you want to keep it. You have two choices: refer to the Yamaha AX-570 user manual for help - View Yamaha AX-570 PDF User Manual Online, which would help you save the money to repair. Or visit a Yamaha service location to repair the unit.

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Hi, you said you had bought this Yamaha AX-570 amp for more than 20 years. Wow, so old, and i think it's better for you to change a new one. But if this one is special to you and you want to keep it. You have two choices: refer to the Yamaha AX-570 user manual for help - View Yamaha AX-570 PDF User Manual Online, which would help you save the money to repair. Or visit a Yamaha service location to repair the unit.

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Thanks for the link. I plan to buy a new amp but some other things have made me detour from that temporarily.

I spoke with a rep at Crutchfield Audio. She pointed me to an Onkyo TX-8160 receiver that was about $400 which she referred to as a "high current" 80 wpc.

I don't understand what makes the Peachtree 220SE produce a better sound than this Onkyo, for instance. Is it the built-in DAC? Would the $1200 price difference produce a noticeably better sound when playing through a CD player? BTW, Crutchfield sells the Peachtree and other much more expensive amps.

Again, I appreciate any help. Thanks.

The peachtree will sound much better than the Onkyo. It is an integrated amp driving only 2 channels. It will have more power, be more dynamic and it has much better spec's. It is a digital amp it will have a lot of air, transparency and dynamic's. The sound stage will be wide and there will be more resolution and detail. The built in DAC will be better than what is in the Onkyo and should sound better than your CD player. You get what you pay for in audio. If you want a high end sound with a piece of gear that will allow you to upgrade in the future and be a center piece of your system, go with the Peach Tree. It will drive almost any speaker.

IMHO, the Peach Tree will sound much better and is the way to go. The onkyo will sound mid fi.

Here is are some reviews on the PT Nova 220se, the first one pairs it with the Golden Triton speakers

First Listen: Peachtree Audio Nova 220SE integrated amp/DAC/headphone amp | The Absolute Sound

Peachtree Audio nova220SE Integrated Amplifier Reviewed

Peachtree Audio nova220SE Integrated Amplifier

Peachtree nova220SE Integrated Amplifier ? Reviews | TONEAudio MAGAZINE


I seriously think that the Onkyo will pale greatly in comparison. The Onkyo is a budget piece and Crutchfield is just trying to make a sale.

Thank you, Raven. While I'm not looking to spend money needlessly, I am not afraid to spend a little more if it counts. Right now Crutchfield has the 220SE at $1600 incl shipping. They also let you try it for 60 days and if you aren't happy, you can send it back for $10. Heck, that makes it almost risk-free. I'm this close to doing it!

Here is a great buy on one refurbished and sold by Peach Tree-

Peachtree Audio NOVA220SE Integrated Amplifier with DAC | eBay

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Here is a great buy on one refurbished and sold by Peach Tree-

Peachtree Audio NOVA220SE Integrated Amplifier with DAC | eBay

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Can I connect my turntable to this amp? I currently run my main speakers plus a set of outdoor patio speakers from my amp. It looks like only one pair can be run from this amp. Is there a way around that?

Yes, there is. A speaker selector switch will take care of it. Here is a link to one on Amazon.
Amazon.com: 2 Pair Speaker Selector Switch Switcher Splitter Box: Electronics

You will need an external phono preamp to use a TT with the Peachtree.

Thanks. Looks pretty painless.

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Can I connect my turntable to this amp? I currently run my main speakers plus a set of outdoor patio speakers from my amp. It looks like only one pair can be run from this amp. Is there a way around that?

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You hook up your TT to a phono preamp that then runs into the AUX input of the Peach Tree. To hok up your patio speakers you would need a speaker selector switch.

For 2 pair of speakers you will need a speaker selector switch like this-

TC 7220 2 Way Amp Amplifier Speaker Selector Switch Switcher Splitter Combiner | eBay

I use to use one and they work well. I did not notice any degradation is sound.

Niles Audio also makes a nice one. But the TC allows you heavier gauge wire and 200wpc RMS (continuous power not peak, you will never be running 200wpc continuous) which will be enough for the Peach Tree.

Otherwise you can get an amp switcher or go with a different amp with 4 speaker outputs.

Your best bet if you want to run 2 sets of speakers is the NAD 375. It has lots of features, a good pedigree and built in DAC. Another option that has had good reviews is the Yamaha A-S1100 natural sound amp. No DAC though

YAMAHA A-S1100 Integrated Amplifier Silver | Accessories4less

It replaces the A-S1000

NAD or the Yamaha would also be my choices but to the Peachtree's defense I have never spent much time with one. I have known people that have owned them and liked them though. NAD seems to be a very robust amplifier for the rated power of the amp and Yamaha is just plain reliable and their upper end stuff sounds good. I am starting to see a big trend in built in DACs and I think some time soon we will see the day that built in DACs in the higher end preamp and integrated amplifiers are very good and as good as most separate units

In fact, I just saw a Marantz HD Amp1 which is a Class D integrated with built in DAC, MSRP $1099.00. Rated at 70 into 4 ohms. Not sure why if using Class D some of these don't give more power.

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In fact, I just saw a Marantz HD Amp1 which is a Class D integrated with built in DAC, MSRP $1099.00. Rated at 70 into 4 ohms. Not sure why if using Class D some of these don't give more power.

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That is way under powered. It looks like 35wpc at 8 ohms. I think the trend is for small bookshelf speakers with the low powered integrated. But if you look at all of the Marantz integrated amps, they all have relatively low power and current compared to other companies. On the other hand, Marantz makes good quality gear.

I bought the Peachtree Nova 220SE. As I've said, I'm no audiophile and I haven't compared a lot of components. But to me, this amp, coupled with my Golden Ear Triton3 speakers sounds fantastic. Lots of power, and the music sounds very detailed and incredibly sharp.

It even came with a bluetooth receiver made by Peachtree so I can play music from my I-pod. Of course it doesn't sound as good as a CD but in the event that you just want to let the tunes go and not pay attention, it is a nice feature. The Bluetooth advertises at $100 and I didn't expect it to come with the amp. If it was a mistake, I made out well.

Funny, though, I can't get myself to toss my old Yamaha amp! I may look into what it might cost to have it fixed. It would be a great replacement to my old Pioneer garage receiver, which I listen to a lot in the summer. I opened it up and tried to clean all the switches and pots, but the static (and channel cutting out) always seems to come back.

Anyway since I bought the Nova from Crutchfield I have 2 months to listen and decide whether to keep it. Right now though, I love it. I do think I may need to play around with my speaker placement, though, to get the best "soundstage" if that is the right term. I will also have to get a phono pre-amp at some point as well as a speaker a-b switch. Yeah, it cost more than I really wanted to spend but right now I have no regrets.

Thanks to all who offered up advice and information. If my opinion changes for some reason, I'll let you know.

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I bought the Peachtree Nova 220SE. As I've said, I'm no audiophile and I haven't compared a lot of components. But to me, this amp, coupled with my Golden Ear Triton3 speakers sounds fantastic. Lots of power, and the music sounds very detailed and incredibly sharp.

It even came with a bluetooth receiver made by Peachtree so I can play music from my I-pod. Of course it doesn't sound as good as a CD but in the event that you just want to let the tunes go and not pay attention, it is a nice feature. The Bluetooth advertises at $100 and I didn't expect it to come with the amp. If it was a mistake, I made out well.

Funny, though, I can't get myself to toss my old Yamaha amp! I may look into what it might cost to have it fixed. It would be a great replacement to my old Pioneer garage receiver, which I listen to a lot in the summer. I opened it up and tried to clean all the switches and pots, but the static (and channel cutting out) always seems to come back.

Anyway since I bought the Nova from Crutchfield I have 2 months to listen and decide whether to keep it. Right now though, I love it. I do think I may need to play around with my speaker placement, though, to get the best "soundstage" if that is the right term. I will also have to get a phono pre-amp at some point as well as a speaker a-b switch. Yeah, it cost more than I really wanted to spend but right now I have no regrets.

Thanks to all who offered up advice and information. If my opinion changes for some reason, I'll let you know.

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My dealer had the Peachtree driving some Golden Ear as well as Paradigm signatures and a pair of Vienna Acoustics Mozarts and it sounded great. They also had an Anthem 225 integrated driving the same set of speakers and the Peachtree was the clear winner. You've chosen well.

Congrats on the PT. It really is a nice integrated and can be a center piece of your system and it will drive most speakers effortlessly should you choose to upgrade. How does the on board DAC compare to your CD player? It should be a step up in audio quality. If you are interested in even better sound by ripping your CD's to a computer and using a computer program, let me know. There are some truly revolutionary programs like HQ player and Bug Head that will blow you away if you have the computer horse power to run them.

Honestly I don't know how the DACs compare. I just know that it sounds really good to me. I would definitely be interested in burning HQ CDs. Thanks, Blackraven, for your help.

I forget which CD player you have but to compare the DAC's instead of using the RCA cables (red/white) from the CDP to the Peachtree, you'd use a digital connection. Using a digital connection keeps the signal digital then it gets decoded by the Peachtree's internal DAC.

I used the optical connection from CD player to the amp.

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Yes, there is. A speaker selector switch will take care of it. Here is a link to one on Amazon.
Amazon.com: 2 Pair Speaker Selector Switch Switcher Splitter Box: Electronics

You will need an external phono preamp to use a TT with the Peachtree.

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Is there a decent all-around phono preamp I could get without spending a lot of money? I currently have a TT but it is one my wife bought me and I don't think it is of high caliber so someday I may get a different one. I see some are intended only for certain types of phono cartridges. Thanks.

What is your Budget for a phono preamp? Don't go to cheap as you get what you pay for.
There is some good buzz about the Emotiva Phono preamp although I have not personally heard it.

https://emotiva.com/products/pres-and-pros/xps-1

Here is a review-

Emotiva XPS-1 Phono Preamplifier Review - HomeTheaterHifi.com

For a little more money you can get something like this Vincent-

Vincent Audio PHO-8 Phono Preamp

or this Bellari which I use-

Bellari VP130 Tube Phono Preamp

I think my question has changed from "which phono preamp" to "which turntable?". The TT I have seems to be very low end. So I think I'm going to begin looking for a better one. What are the main things I need to consider? Thanks.

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I think my question has changed from "which phono preamp" to "which turntable?". The TT I have seems to be very low end. So I think I'm going to begin looking for a better one. What are the main things I need to consider? Thanks.

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First off, what is your budget? Is vinyl going to be your first choice of listening? You will need a decent phono preamp regardless of which TT you buy. Also, many budget TT's come with an Ortofon 2M Red Cartridge. It is way over hyped and it is a $100 cartridge. It is a little grainy and bright sounding. I prefer the 2M blue which is more refined. If you prefer a warmer sound like I do, then you will want to upgrade to another cartridge as the 2M Red and Blue are anything but warm.

Here are some medium priced TT's to consider.


Pro-ject Carbon Debut Esprit-great TT for a budget.

Pro-ject 1Xpression Carbon

Music Hall 5.3

Music Hall Ikura

Rega RP-3

Music Hall MMF7.1

And my favorite, the Clear Audio Concept. Read up on this TT.

The Music Hall 7.1 and the CAC are the most expensive and both are very good TT's. The Rega RP-3 and MH Ikura are also good TT's.

I have heard many of these TT's at the Needle Dr here in town. They sell on line as well and are very helpful it you need advice on TT's and related gear as well as which phono preamp to pair with a TT and cartridge. They are always willing to talk on the phone.

Needle Doctor

The Concept with the more expensive cart option is a great package if budget permits and Musical Surroundings phono stages have good synergy. The one to get I believe is just under $1k. Another option would be the Marantz Reference table which is a Clearaudio, this table has all good reviews and described as a great bang for your buck, comes with cart.

The Rega P3 also is a good performer with a Dynavector dv10x5 cart. There is also other good cart options depending on the type of sound you like in the $300.00 to $500.00 range.

The turntable, cart & phono stage work together as the analog source. You have to have them as a comparable package, meaning you can't really cheap out on either. However, it's pretty much agreed amongst those who know that a better table with a lesser cart is better than a cheap table with expensive cart.

Remind me what you are using now. Also, Blakkraven's other suggestions are good. I heard my friend's Music Hall 7.1 with 2m Black and it sounded good. I need to hear it again now that he has a better phono stage.

The budget is the main thing, then you can shop the options in that range.

I haven't actually decided what my budget is yet, because I don't know what good TTs and cartridges cost. Vinyl will not be my main medium to listen to but I have quite a few records from my younger days, and I always took good care of them so they're still in great shape.

Knowing very little about the costs, I'd say my limit is $1000 total for the TT, cartridge and preamp. I played a couple albums on the TT I currently have and now I have the itch to get something nicer. I played some stuff I hadn't listened to in 30 years or more, and it got me all sentimental!

Since I now have a nicer amp and speakers than in the past, the vinyl sounded good even with the cheap TT my wife bought for me. Once I get a new TT, I hope I can switch it out without her noticing although she has admitted it wasn't very expensive and I don't think she'd mind.

I'll check out your suggestions and thanks for your help.

The TT my wife bought for me is an "ION" something or other. She bought it because I had mentioned I wanted to get one that will digitize my vinyls. So maybe I could keep it if just for that purpose. Some of the albums I have are relatively obscure and finding them on CD is very challenging sometimes, so I wanted to burn them to CD so I can play some of it on my garage stereo which I use a lot during the summer. The lack of super high quality equipment out there is overlooked when I have a few beers!

I think I'm gonna set the limit to about $1,000 total for a TT, preamp and cartridge.