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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchmon View Post
    Fenor...i have been in a few cable shoot outs.. And I can say without a doubt, cables and power cords make a difference. But some gear...especially cheaper gear can have to much of a house sound that wont pass the sonic signature as well. My Rotel was like that. It had a strong house sound. The Vincent gear is totally different. Its clear and transparent and responds to anything I use in the system.
    I'm just going to say that I'm NOT one of those people who say cables make no difference. I will say I have never heard any difference in normal listening -- BUT I'm not about to admit that my equipment, (including my ears), is so crappy as to be unable to differential the sounds. So call me a naysayer if you like but actually I'm just skeptical.

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    I am not skeptical by no means that cables make a difference. I have proven it to myself time and time again in my own system and others that I have installed over the years but I also believe there is a limit to what a cable should cost or how much a person should spend on a cable in comparison to how much improvement it gives them in a system. a couple hundred or a few hundred dollars is about my limit. These cables out there that are $10,000 is ludicrous!! I just can't justify that to myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harley .guy07 View Post
    I am not skeptical by no means that cables make a difference. I have proven it to myself time and time again in my own system and others that I have installed over the years but I also believe there is a limit to what a cable should cost or how much a person should spend on a cable in comparison to how much improvement it gives them in a system. a couple hundred or a few hundred dollars is about my limit. These cables out there that are $10,000 is ludicrous!! I just can't justify that to myself.
    True that!
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    I have found that some IC's sound different but I have not found that different speaker cables and power cords have made a difference in my system.
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    Parasound A21 amp
    Vintage Luxman T-110 tuner
    Magnepan MMG's, Grant Fidelity DAC-11, Class D CDA254 amp
    Monitor Audio S1 speakers, PSB B6 speakers
    Vintage Technic's Integrated amp
    Music Hall 25.2 CDP
    Adcom GFR 700 AVR
    Cables- Cardas, Silnote, BJC
    Velodyne CHT 8 sub

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    What PC are you using now with the Pass?
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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchmon View Post
    What PC are you using now with the Pass?
    I am using the stock cord but later this week I will swap in my AudioQuest AC12 to see if there is a difference.
    Pass Labs X250 amp, BAT Vk-51se Preamp,
    Thorens TD-145 TT, Bellari phono preamp, Nagaoka MP-200 Cartridge
    Magnepan QR1.6 speakers
    Luxman DA-06 DAC
    Van Alstine Ultra Plus Hybrid Tube DAC
    Dual Martin Logan Original Dynamo Subs
    Parasound A21 amp
    Vintage Luxman T-110 tuner
    Magnepan MMG's, Grant Fidelity DAC-11, Class D CDA254 amp
    Monitor Audio S1 speakers, PSB B6 speakers
    Vintage Technic's Integrated amp
    Music Hall 25.2 CDP
    Adcom GFR 700 AVR
    Cables- Cardas, Silnote, BJC
    Velodyne CHT 8 sub

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackraven View Post
    I am using the stock cord but later this week I will swap in my AudioQuest AC12 to see if there is a difference.
    Raven...that cord is for a component such as preamp or CDP...its a 12 gauge. For the Pass you need at least a 10 gauge to hear a real change in the amps performance. Man you can get a good 8 gauge power cord here Triodewirelabs.com

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