I love this Marantz!

[Jack in Wilmington]

Have you rolled your tubes? And also keep in mind, there are many romantic speakers. Example...Peabody and I have a Vanessa Williams CD that we like to listen to as we listen to different speakers. She has this voice that is really warm as in making you feel good in side...make you have that look on your face as you get all up in the smoothness of the sound..some times that voice brings goose bump...voices like Shirley Horn, Chaka, Roberta Flack and a few others. IF the speaker does not move me with those voices I automatically know its not for me. If it does, I listen for other parts of the sound, but it begins with the voices for me.

Yesterday, while listening to the Canton Vento 809 DC at $5000.00 a pair...they where all that and a bag of chips. Then we listened to Vanessa Williams and I was moved. I knew that speaker was romantic. But then we listened to the Canton Ergo 902 DC and I was just like wow! Absolutely moved and stired up inside. Even Peabody thought they where Romantic...and that was through a Marantz AV 7005 Pre/processor and driven with a Theta digital 7.1 power amp. My point???? Its more in the speakers than the amp or preamp.. I hate a sterile speaker.....but thats my opinion. Now tubes are romantic as well....tube rolling may give that to you as well.

I did roll my output tubes to Gold Lion KT88. That gave me more bass, but not as well defined. I was going to try the KT120's but after some discussion with some of the other AR members, I decided against it.

As far as female voices go, I agree with you. That is the first test I give to any worthy speaker. My choices are Annie Haslam and Mary Fahl. If it gets those two right, it's passed the first test.

[Hyfi]

As far as female voices go, I agree with you. That is the first test I give to any worthy speaker. My choices are Annie Haslam and Mary Fahl. If it gets those two right, it's passed the first test.

Interesting choices. What Annie tracks in particular and Mary Fahl tracks?

Last night I decided to hand truck the Clearfields out and roll the Audience 82s back in. I also decided to leave the Counterpoint in play to drive the Danes.

Man, all the lacking bass has returned, but at the slight loss of the outrageous Mids of the Clearfields. But, the Dyns are an awesome speaker once you reconcile the sound change and re-appreciate what they do good.

I first spun several tracks from the Morglbl Groteskue disk...I was surely in a Bass mood. Next up I played track 3, LA Underground from Larry and Lee which has a slamming opening as well as a deep bass line that many speakers reproduce as mush.

I then played Markus Miller's live version of Mile's Tutu...awesome. Next up it was several tracks off of trick of the Tail which was really enjoyable.

I then wanted to hear some female vocals and put on Sarah Mclachlan - Afterglow. What a beautiful disk. The wife went to bed so I had to turn it down a bit. I switched the VAC to Passive and really enjoyed the overall sound combo.

[Jack in Wilmington]

Interesting choices. What Annie tracks in particular and Mary Fahl tracks?

Last night I decided to hand truck the Clearfields out and roll the Audience 82s back in. I also decided to leave the Counterpoint in play to drive the Danes.

Man, all the lacking bass has returned, but at the slight loss of the outrageous Mids of the Clearfields. But, the Dyns are an awesome speaker once you reconcile the sound change and re-appreciate what they do good.

I first spun several tracks from the Morglbl Groteskue disk...I was surely in a Bass mood. Next up I played track 3, LA Underground from Larry and Lee which has a slamming opening as well as a deep bass line that many speakers reproduce as mush.

I then played Markus Miller's live version of Mile's Tutu...awesome. Next up it was several tracks off of trick of the Tail which was really enjoyable.

I then wanted to hear some female vocals and put on Sarah Mclachlan - Afterglow. What a beautiful disk. The wife went to bed so I had to turn it down a bit. I switched the VAC to Passive and really enjoyed the overall sound combo.

From the first time I saw Renaissance at the old Robin Hood Dell in Fairmount Park, they opened up with "Prologue" and that has always been my opening song when auditioning audio gear. From the opening bars of John's piano and then Annie's voice just comes in as if from heaven. When I was auditioning my Ushers at Quest, even Steve and his customer from the other room came in to listen. I have a half dozen Renaissance tracks on one of my test discs that I use, but I always listen to "Trip to the Fair" and "Vultures Fly High". My Mary Fahl tracks are varied. One from her days with October Project called "Something More Than This" and two tracks from her solo work The Other Side Of Time. One is called "In The Great Unknown" and the other is the title track.

[Hyfi]

From the first time I saw Renaissance at the old Robin Hood Dell in Fairmount Park, they opened up with "Prologue" and that has always been my opening song when auditioning audio gear. From the opening bars of John's piano and then Annie's voice just comes in as if from heaven. When I was auditioning my Ushers at Quest, even Steve and his customer from the other room came in to listen. I have a half dozen Renaissance tracks on one of my test discs that I use, but I always listen to "Trip to the Fair" and "Vultures Fly High". My Mary Fahl tracks are varied. One from her days with October Project called "Something More Than This" and two tracks from her solo work The Other Side Of Time. One is called "In The Great Unknown" and the other is the title track.

Good choices. Annie did have a voice of angels back in the day....still not bad today. I still remember seeing them at the Academy of Music in Philly, can't think of a better venue for them.

I have several of her later solo work.
The Dawn of Ananda
Live Under Brazilian Skies
One Enchanted Evening, which was recorded in a little church not too far from me.

She lives in Doylestown and I have seen her at local shows.

[frenchmon]

Interesting choices. What Annie tracks in particular and Mary Fahl tracks?

Last night I decided to hand truck the Clearfields out and roll the Audience 82s back in. I also decided to leave the Counterpoint in play to drive the Danes.

Those Clearfields must be some heavy speaker to have to wheel them out.

Man, all the lacking bass has returned, but at the slight loss of the outrageous Mids of the Clearfields. But, the Dyns are an awesome speaker once you reconcile the sound change and re-appreciate what they do good

Well...I've discovered the Canton Ergo and Vento, series of speakers has the bottom end of the Dyns and great mids and a very nice transparent tweeter. If I had to say anything negative about the bass of the Canton vrs the Dyns it that the Dyns are a little bit more refined in the bass. But the Cantons are not that far off....you have to really listen to hear it....they have this DC technology they use with their bass. IF you get a chance look them up. Cantons are a airy speaker so if you don't like air and transparency with your bass its not the speaker for you. Canton's hand made Reference Series must be off the chain.

I first spun several tracks from the Morglbl Groteskue disk...I was surely in a Bass mood. Next up I played track 3, LA Underground from Larry and Lee which has a slamming opening as well as a deep bass line that many speakers reproduce as mush.

I then played Markus Miller's live version of Mile's Tutu...awesome. Next up it was several tracks off of trick of the Tail which was really enjoyable.

I then wanted to hear some female vocals and put on Sarah Mclachlan - Afterglow. What a beautiful disk. The wife went to bed so I had to turn it down a bit. I switched the VAC to Passive and really enjoyed the overall sound combo.

[Hyfi]

Those Clearfields must be some heavy speaker to have to wheel them out.

86lbs each, but remember, I had back surgery earlier this year and I know moving amps and speakers was part of the cause of the injury.

I use 1" thick granite slabs under the spiked 82s and use the hand truck to move them on the slabs.

[frenchmon]

86lbs each, but remember, I had back surgery earlier this year and I know moving amps and speakers was part of the cause of the injury.

I use 1" thick granite slabs under the spiked 82s and use the hand truck to move them on the slabs.

Oh...im sorry Hyfi....I did not know. Hope you are feeling better.