Quote Originally Posted by frenchmon View Post
You know Peabody....you said I had a really good deal with the Vincent....you even acknowledge your CJ was really warm, and could not produce the bass for the ZU. When I said the same things at you house about how warm and thick and lifeless and the CJ not being able to produce bass and the VIncent could you even agreed....and you have this look on your face like you could not believe it. But this is about you thinking im trashing your beloved expensive gear! Thats what this is about...I even told you I was going to report what happended.

So go ahead and try to save face man.....you know that CJ preamp could not drive the ZU....now the Emotivea cant drive them, nor the LINN , or your Marantz. And btw, your CJ sounds warmer than any Marantz I've heard. You even trashed Marantz Reference talking about it was to lifeless....but when the tables are turned on you, you want to say it aint so! So you make things up about the VIncent being hot and voiced to be more than what it is....you are some kinda work Peabody...but thats ok, its not the first time....I've taken notice how you always get this way about stuff on these forums.....even when I was living back in Carolina years ago and was just a lurker then I remember you getting into a big argument with some guy over Krell gear, I've seen you arguments with Terrence about stuff but thats alright Peabody...you are always the correct one. I bow to you...my VIncent is Hot, and voiced to be more than what it is, and there is nothing wrong with your CJ, Hey I have an idea! Why dont you go out and get a HOT and VOICED Vincent! That way you can drive your ZU and Dynaudio speakers the way they where meant to be and all you got to do is sell your Name Brand CJ...some body will by it...after all its a Conrad Johnson....an audio staple.

So now we have Krell, Marantz, CJ, Emotiva, and LINN that cant drive the ZU speakers. What about your Parasound, and your Bryston Peabody???? Can they drive the ZU? Wow!!!! So the Vincent is the abnormal gear here that drove your ZU and Dyns like they have never been driven before. Sounds like you need to be trying to buy some Vincent gear Peabody because according to you...its the only preamp on the market that can drive ZU. Naw its just that your CJ may be over rated at best! Face it!
OK, so I have been following this thread and wondering why all the focus is solely on the Pre-Amp for driving speakers.

I have 1 pre amp but 2 amps and 2 pairs of speakers. Amp A drives one set of speakers properly where Amp B does not. When I swap the speakers in my system, Amp B drives set 2 better than Amp A. But all 4 tests are using the same Pre Amp.

So why all the focus on just the Pre? Did anyone consider that the Amps may not be matched correctly with the speakers?

Were any tests done by running the source right to the Amps bypassing the Pre altogether?

My Counterpoint NPS400 does not drive my Dynaudio 82s the same as my Stratos, while the Stratos does not drive the Clearfields as good as the Counterpoint. Both using a VAC CLA1 MKII Pre Amp.