3 interesting articles from AES, Journal of Elect Engineers, Eric Barbour

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Avoiding the question for you to prove we have all the measurements necessary, and don't need anymore. Amazing that your reply mentioned only a personal attack. But no Proof when you're asked to present some. Real scientific.

No. Actually, you have not presented anything that needs proof. You have yet to demonstrate audible differences let alone that cannot be explained by measurements, current measurements.


As seen below, you certainly have no evidence to support your position. In fact, you support mine, again.


In your dreams.

[b]I have evidence that parts measure differently, even the article "picking capacitors" by Dr. Richard Marsh from MIT, AES article, Journal of Electrical Engineers, Eric Barbour, plus others I could present but why should I when you support my position and knock your own references (which you haven't presented).[/]

WOW. Shoing your ignorance, again. I suppose you can cite my post stating parts don't measure difference. WOW.

Then what? You jump off the bridge and make unsupported claims of audibility. WOW. No evidence, no nothing but your imagination.



"Oh, the cap test, better be under DBT. The last one was null but hey, we are still waiting for all the positive ones." (craft's quote)"

Electrolytic capacitor distortion translates to only some -25db down.

Oh sure. That is why everything has sooo little distortion, right? LOL.






"Oh, the cap test, better be under DBT. The last one was null but hey, we are still waiting for all the positive ones." (craft's quote)

So DBT tests show we can't hear 25db down distortions. Wow, that sure proves how accurate DBT tests are. What is really embarrassing is you shot down your "own" DBT results.


No. That is your speculated imagination only. What DBT shows is what you can hear and cannot hear. Your sighted listeing shown only your biased perceptions and how unreliable and useless, worthless they are for difference detection. I thought you were the bright one.

So you must be the "Only a total ... would thins a DBT unreliable" as you continue to make a fool out of yourself.

Not at all. You are still in the dog house, in the corner. When you have reality in hand let us know, along with your evidence for audible differences. LOL

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"No. Actually, you have not presented anything that needs proof. You have yet to demonstrate audible differences let alone that cannot be explained by measurements, current measurements."

Acutally, if you can measure the differences, by using physics, you must prove they do sound the same, which you can't.

"WOW. Shoing your ignorance, again. I suppose you can cite my post stating parts don't measure difference. WOW.
Then what? You jump off the bridge and make unsupported claims of audibility. WOW. No evidence, no nothing but your imagination."

Another evasion of a good answer. If they measure differently, you must prove they sound the same.

"Oh sure. That is why everything has sooo little distortion, right? LOL."

As mentioned before, this type of distortion isn't measured by harmonic distortion analyzers, which you indicated doesn't need to be measured and listed. It is another form of distortion that isn't listed. Ignorance isn't good crafts.

"No. That is your speculated imagination only. What DBT shows is what you can hear and cannot hear. Your sighted listeing shown only your biased perceptions and how unreliable and useless, worthless they are for difference detection. I thought you were the bright one."

As pointed out before, you can hear distortion -25db down from a tube amplifier but not from an electrolytic cap and not -70db down Turntable rumble. Really makes sense crafts.

As RGA pointed out, you seem to select which articles you subscribe too. Who decides? You?

Sorry but you are in the dog house my friend and no amount of cunning will get you out. If a part measures differently, by definition, you must be the one to prove it doesn't sound different. You lose again.

ps. Your wireless link only seems to provided telephone service. Want to provide a more specific link?

"DBT does not prove A and B sound the same...says it right on the ABX site from Oakland University. What it shows is a correlation that people can't distinguish, (accurately) a difference within the testing environment with the specific people under test on that day. There is no support for audible differences under that test in that test environment."

RGA, you have to remember we aren't trying to convince crafts, but helping others see the exaggerations craft seems to use to support his views. His references conclusions are never seemingly the same as his views.