• 05-17-2010, 10:45 AM
    VintageTurntable
    Are these Name Brand Speakers
    My dad was wondering because he had never heard of them. Big Monterous with wood Cabinets,15" Woofers,Circuit Breaker Protected,4Way,6 Driver,& they say Scott Exspensive? from 1987
  • 05-17-2010, 10:50 AM
    VintageTurntable
    How do they compare with lets say KENWOOD & TECHNICS??
  • 05-17-2010, 10:51 AM
    markw
    Huh?
    What did you say that brand was?
  • 05-17-2010, 10:58 AM
    VintageTurntable
    Scott
  • 05-17-2010, 10:58 AM
    basite
    sounds like a kabuki speaker, '87 and 6 drivers, (kabuki is not a brand, it's referring to a type of speaker) (look it up for clarification).

    I wouldn't rate them very high, maybe somewhere in the lines of kenwoods, but kenwood's strength never were speakers neither, technics made some decent speakers.

    As I have no experience whatsoever with the type of speakers you are referring to, I cannot comment on how they sound, but my expectations aren't very high - sorry.
  • 05-17-2010, 11:04 AM
    VintageTurntable
    They sound Fantastic I have them hooked up to a 70's KENWOOD Stereo Receiver.
  • 05-17-2010, 12:49 PM
    markw
    As long as you like them is all that matters.
    The fact of the matter is that, even in Scott's heyday in the 50's, 60's and early 70's they were not known for outstanding speakers. Electroncs, yes, but not speakers.

    And, I didn't know they made planar speakers, either.
  • 05-17-2010, 01:13 PM
    basite
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by markw
    And, I didn't know they made planar speakers, either.


    They didn't. :)
  • 05-17-2010, 01:20 PM
    VintageTurntable
    Sorry must have posted in the wrong forum I don't know what Planar Speakers are??
  • 05-17-2010, 01:21 PM
    VintageTurntable
    They are outstanding In my opinion. I even read online they had a better reputation than most for speakers. Correct me if I'm wrong but i'm 100% positive circuit breakers or fuses are only used in speakers that are exspensive never used in inexspensive ones?
  • 05-18-2010, 12:42 AM
    basite
    I'm sorry, but...

    where did you read that?

    read this:
    http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/arc.../t-110144.html

    especially not in 87, scott made their heydays in the 60's and 70's, and like a lot of brands, they only went downhill from of that point. Their early speakers, were more decent, better made, 'respectable', but still nothing special. Like lots of other brands, like advent, acoustic research, jensen, lenco ... just to name a few, they were swallowed up by big 'factories', which killed the original brand, used the name and let them produce crappy electronics. look at advent, for example, a brand by Henry Kloss, the advent speakers, were a true revolution in their time, they brought the music to the people. Kloss introduced a smaller cabinet for acoustic suspension type speakers, and a 2 way design with a new tweeter design, they sounded terrific, especially considering that they didn't cost that much. BUT, Henry left his child 'advent', and the brand was bought by a chinese
    manufacturer, and today, advent makes portable DVD players, to be mounted in cars, and no quality ones neither...

    If you like them, keep them, that's all that matters, but know that they are nothing special, and there is much much better out there for not much money...

    and,
    Planar speakers are speakers that use thin foils, or something in that order moved by big magnets, a popular example of a planar speaker brand is magnepan. there also exist other theories, used in brands like martin logan, and apogee.

    Keep them spinning,
    Bert.
  • 05-18-2010, 07:33 AM
    VintageTurntable
    FYI They were bought from ABC Warehouse I got them from the original owner who bought them new in 1987. & they are circuit breaker protected.
  • 05-18-2010, 07:45 AM
    basite
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VintageTurntable
    FYI They were bought from ABC Warehouse I got them from the original owner who bought them new in 1987. & they are circuit breaker protected.


    Which means, what?

    circuit breakers 'fuses', were pretty common back then...
    and most true high end speakers don't have them, fuses affect sound.
  • 05-18-2010, 07:45 AM
    VintageTurntable
    I don't believe any of that. They sure did know how to make good speakers.
  • 05-18-2010, 07:47 AM
    VintageTurntable
    No these speakers have no fuses to have to be replaced once they blow.
  • 05-18-2010, 07:54 AM
    basite
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VintageTurntable
    I don't believe any of that. They sure did know how to make good speakers.


    well, you don't have to believe me, in particular.

    but, check wikipedia, check hifi classics, and especially
    check their current site.

    scott's website

    this is what they became, after 1985, when they were bought by a big company. and on hifi classics, they mention ALL their amps, all their tuners, everything, and only one speaker...

    I'm not hating you for owning these, certainly not, but there is better out there...
  • 05-18-2010, 08:54 AM
    VintageTurntable
    well if I had to guess the price of them when new was probbally $600.00 or $700.00 or right around there.
  • 05-18-2010, 09:24 AM
    basite
    well, but that's no more than a guess isn't it?

    how about you post some pics of these things?
  • 05-18-2010, 10:20 AM
    Ajani
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by basite
    If you like them, keep them, that's all that matters

    I 100% Agree! Unless the plan is to try and sell them on A'gon as some kind of classic limited edition ultra rare BS, then it doesn't matter whether they are "brand name" speakers or not...

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by basite
    but know that they are nothing special, and there is much much better out there for not much money...

    I disagree... that's a big assumption... for Vintage T's tastes there may not be anything out there that is "much Better" for "not much money"...

    Even gear only regarded as average/nothing special might sound surprisingly good with synergistic products and the right setup...

    I have a pair of cheap 90's Technics 3 ways, that I never thought to use with any kind of decent electronics as they are essentially "junk" by all audiophile standards... But when I put them into service to test out a new amp I found that they are capable of sounding quite respectable...
  • 05-18-2010, 01:46 PM
    VintageTurntable
    I would never part with them.
  • 05-18-2010, 01:55 PM
    VintageTurntable
    I would gladly post pics if I had a Camera but I don't have one.
  • 05-18-2010, 04:32 PM
    markw
    OK, let's cut to the chase, shall we?
    You're new here and seem to have just discovered the wonder of stereo. That's good.

    You have a lot of questions. That's normal and this is a good place to get answers. There are many people here with years of experience in this hobby. Some were most likely into audio before you, and perhaps your parents, were even born.

    Remember, not every piece of equipment you stumble across is going to be a hidden gem. Sometimes people throw away a gem but keep in mind that a lot of the stuff made since the inception of this hobby was quite pedestrian, and sometimes worse.

    Since you ask questions, it's assumed that you want an honest answer. Be prepared for them. I don't think people are here to pith in your cornflakes, just provide honest answers.

    But, a pattern seems to be emerging, at least on two of your three threads here so far.

    It seems that you know what you want to hear before you ask the questions and, when the answers weren't what you wanted to hear, you seem to become a bit confrontational and argue with the people who were kind enough to share their (in many cases, extensive) knowledge with you.

    Seriously, guy. Lighten up. If you want honest answers, ask. If all you want is affirmation, well...

    .
  • 05-18-2010, 05:08 PM
    VintageTurntable
    So Mark what are u saying exactly??
  • 05-18-2010, 06:08 PM
    JoeE SP9
    What he's trying to say in a nice way is that the speakers you think are so good are really pretty awful. They weren't considered all that good back then and they come off even worse in comparison with current speakers. There are plenty of speakers from that era that are quite good. H.H. Scotts are not one of the good ones. Generally, any speaker with a circuit breaker in it is not very good. That's a plain and simple fact.

    With that said, markw was polite and laid back. If you ask for opinions be prepared to hear things you may not like. If you were close to my location I'd invite you over to hear what I and others whose opinions I value think sounds damn good. The others I speak of are people who like me have been involved in this hobby for many years. In my case since since 1967.

    Incidentally "Kabuki" is not a complimentary term for a speaker.

    In any case, if you like the sound of your 'Kabuki" speakers that's your prerogative. However, don't expect those of us with some knowledge and experience in this field to agree with your assessment.
  • 05-19-2010, 12:49 PM
    VintageTurntable
    Also I know off topic but a Kenwood KR-4070 is just killer rated at 40 x2 WPC it bangs.