Speaker wire makes a huge difference!!!!!!

No, it doesn't double the power, but it plays with the impedance -- but only of the cables, which are relatively small compared to the speakers.

I think what he's saying if you double up on 12 gauge, you get 9 gauge. And using runs from different terminals is the same as doubling up on them, although they may be out of different transformers from the perspective of the amp. In which case, it won't be the same as doubling up on them, but I would still pay attention to what the manufacturer recommends. For example, in the old days, the highest end receivers usually had A B & C speaker outs, but no position for A+B+C, because it couldn't drive all three at once.

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Originally Posted by Dusty Chalk

No, it doesn't double the power, but it plays with the impedance -- but only of the cables, which are relatively small compared to the speakers.

I think what he's saying if you double up on 12 gauge, you get 9 gauge. And using runs from different terminals is the same as doubling up on them, although they may be out of different transformers from the perspective of the amp. In which case, it won't be the same as doubling up on them, but I would still pay attention to what the manufacturer recommends. For example, in the old days, the highest end receivers usually had A B & C speaker outs, but no position for A+B+C, because it couldn't drive all three at once.

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Will I damage my speakers playing both right receiver channels into the right speaker if it is not Bi amplified, and what effect can I expect from such an endeavor ?

None related question:
If I am doubling up on speaker cables what may I experience?
Thanks
Very interesting topic indeed.
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I think... Connecting that way would just null out the added resistance on each output and wouldn't sound much different or damage anything. I stress... I think... Don't blame me... LOL

If you used the A and B outputs to biwire the highs and lows of a biwirable speaker, you'd probably get reduced volume at a given setting of the volume control. The impedance would be increased because the A or B speakers wouldn't have another speaker in the circuit operating in the same frequency range. Might this be a way to safely hook up bi-wirable 4 ohm speakers to a receiver recommended for 8 ohm speakers only?


Doubling the speaker wires could maybe open up the sound a little more... I believe I've also noticed a tonal effect when cables use 2 separate larger conductors. Might be for the better or worse on your system... Try it and let us know... Not sure if I'd do the A and B thing...

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Originally Posted by Woochifer

FWIW, the only published speaker wire test I'm aware of that reliably demonstrated differences under blind conditions was a test that Stereo Review conducted decades ago where subjects clearly differentiated between a 24-gauge speaker wire and a group of other thicker cables. But, that same test found that subjects could not reliably differentiate between a generic 16-gauge lamp cord and Monster Cable.

... I've observed subtle differences between speaker wires in blind listenings, but they are nowhere near the magnitude of difference that a lot of people attribute to the cabling. IMO, the investment in megabuck cabling is better spent in more relevant areas like improving room acoustics.

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I though I heard a subtle difference when I went from 8' of 12 ga. Rat Shack to 9' of Nortdost Flatline Gold. But later I went from the Nordost to 7' of Monster bi-wire 14 ga. and heard no difference. After that I went to 3' of the Monster, (driven by monoblocks with longer, XLR interconnects), and once again heard nadda bit of difference.

I totally agree: if you've got a grand or two to play with, you typically away smarter spending it on other components or room treatments.

Yeah, i was wondering about that last question too, my next pair of speakers will probably be bi wireable, but they would be 4 ohm i think (apogee centaurs or Von Schweikert VR-2)

can i wire up A and B?

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Originally Posted by Bluforever

I switched out to silver plated 16g studio wire, AND OMFG!!!! Complete night and day differnce.

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As others have indicated, the lower resistance of 12 or 14 gauge cable is advantageous over toy wire. Tight connections are important as well. Untinned wire tends to oxidize over time and takes on a greenish-blackish hue. Whenever the wire loses its bright luster, throw it away and get some more stuff. I use generic Philips branded 14 gauge speaker wire in the vintage Double Advent system.

My electrostats, however, are a different beast. Because of their extremely low impedance at low frequencies, they require more than low resistance. The higher inductance of zip cord rolls off the top in the audible range. It is for that reason I use ultra low inductance JPS Labs cables with them.

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I am going with my jumper cables and Sears Die hard in line after the preamp to see if I can improve resolution .....LOL

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