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Well the switch to the DNM Reson's was not an improvement after all. Yes it gave more extension in the highs but what it gave to the highs it took from the lows. The Studio 530's make it easier to decide which cable is better.

Not only was the sound tilted up male vocals were sounding thin. The Micropurls are a much better match in my system. Now the overall balance is more to my liking.

I am still enjoying these speakers. I am listening to a wider range of genres and listening more often. One of the traits that first impressed me was the solid imaging and it is still the best imaging I have had in my room.

JM, do you still have your Anticables? If so, you should give them a try. I went with AC's Reference line and I love them, I prefer them over my Siltech or some very expensive Clarus I've tried.

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I enjoy a little twang and early country music. I have attended many Blue Grass festivals in my day. Growing up I watched Hee Haw and the Grand Ole Opry. I loved Minnie Pearl and the tag hanging from her hat. Of course I watched Lawrence Welk, Andy Williams, Jackie Gleeson and any show with music or dancing. Oh and the Porter Wagoner show with Dolly Parton. As I grew older there was the Ed Sullivan show. The Beatles, Janis Joplin and many others. If a show had music I watched it.

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Dang JM...how old are you??? In your 60's?

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Well the switch to the DNM Reson's was not an improvement after all. Yes it gave more extension in the highs but what it gave to the highs it took from the lows. The Studio 530's make it easier to decide which cable is better.

Not only was the sound tilted up male vocals were sounding thin. The Micropurls are a much better match in my system. Now the overall balance is more to my liking.

I am still enjoying these speakers. I am listening to a wider range of genres and listening more often. One of the traits that first impressed me was the solid imaging and it is still the best imaging I have had in my room.

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JM....my dealer has the JBL Studio 570's. He is running them with in a system with the new Onkyo Reference separates, and using all Clarus cables...and the system sounds fantastic, He let me borrow the a set of Clarus Aqua inner connects and the power cord. These are fantastic cables.....you may want to look into them. Clarus Audophile Collection Introduction


Also JM...on another note....I was suppose to let you borrow that Grado Phono amp, but it malfunctioned on me and damaged my tweeters. Lucky the folks at Canton replaced the tweeter free of charge and sent me new ones from Germany.....and my dealer let me return the Grado and he gave me the new Creek OBH 15 MK 2. Its been out less than a year and I pick it up Thursday....man the ceramic tweeters in the Cantons are very clear....Me and Peabody had a nice listen to them last Sunday....we also listened to the Monitor Audio GX 100's GX 300's JBL Studio 570's and Revel Salon 2's....and the thought of the Cantons being out of place with the Revels never crossed my mind at all.....great stand mount speaker.....Makes me wonder what the Floor model Canton Vento 870's can do.....That may very well be my next speaker down the road.

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JM, do you still have your Anticables? If so, you should give them a try. I went with AC's Reference line and I love them, I prefer them over my Siltech or some very expensive Clarus I've tried.

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I do still have the AC's and you are right they are good and I do need to try them with the JBL's.

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Dang JM...how old are you??? In your 60's?

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Hope to be one day. I am 56 but liked music from an early age. My father would sing "You Are My Sunshine". Another early song went "I'm looking over a four leaf clover that I overlooked before". An early love of music along with an early realization that I have no talent.

Frenchmon I would like to hear the Studio 570's. I do find the balance of the 530's to be great in my room. The 570's might earn me more complaints from the college princesses who live below.

This morning I was listening to Yo Yo Ma's "Soul Of The Tango". What achingly beautiful music. What a good recording. Last night I listened to the musical "In The Heights" which is a favorite but the JBL's do not let me forget it is not the best recording. None of my music is unlistenable but you are aware of compromises.

Sorry the Grado did not work out long term but I will enjoy reading about the Creek. The cables look interesting. I will read more when I am in front of my computer. I will not be buying anything new until next year since my dog thought I needed a new watch for Christmas and he borrowed the money from me. He is so thoughtful.

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JM....my dealer has the JBL Studio 570's. He is running them with in a system with the new Onkyo Reference separates, and using all Clarus cables...and the system sounds fantastic, He let me borrow the a set of Clarus Aqua inner connects and the power cord. These are fantastic cables.....you may want to look into them. Clarus Audophile Collection Introduction


Also JM...on another note....I was suppose to let you borrow that Grado Phono amp, but it malfunctioned on me and damaged my tweeters. Lucky the folks at Canton replaced the tweeter free of charge and sent me new ones from Germany.....and my dealer let me return the Grado and he gave me the new Creek OBH 15 MK 2. Its been out less than a year and I pick it up Thursday....man the ceramic tweeters in the Cantons are very clear....Me and Peabody had a nice listen to them last Sunday....we also listened to the Monitor Audio GX 100's GX 300's JBL Studio 570's and Revel Salon 2's....and the thought of the Cantons being out of place with the Revels never crossed my mind at all.....great stand mount speaker.....Makes me wonder what the Floor model Canton Vento 870's can do.....That may very well be my next speaker down the road.

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LOL, let's hope the dog has good taste.

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LOL, let's hope the dog has good taste.

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He did an excellent job shopping.

Dang JM! Thats a very nice watch! Think you pet can send me one? Thanks for mentioning th eYo Yo Ma CD...I will have to get that one.

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JM, do you still have your Anticables? If so, you should give them a try. I went with AC's Reference line and I love them, I prefer them over my Siltech or some very expensive Clarus I've tried.

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Mr. Peabody I now have the AntiCables in place. Since I am bi-wiring that extra copper over the Rockets bi-wire is filling out the low end. I like them better with the JBL's than I did with the RS6's. I am looking forward to more music and how they fair in the long term. I have always liked them and thought they were great value for the money.

I had not listened to "Adagio d'Albinoni" in a few weeks so I thought I would check it out. The Studio 530's wired with the AntiCables in bi-wire configuration and driven by the Krell S-300i was a surprise. The recording sounded good previously with other cables but the organ was a little recessed. The double bass produced by the 5.25 inch mid/woofer was more like the cello. The AntiCables moved the organ forward in the mix and I was now hearing the double bass. What a beautiful recording. I am now getting my $50 worth of entertainement from the recording. It is interesting which combination of equipment will move the bar up higher.

It is, interesting how different gear and cables seem to have synergy, or not. For me, once I got used to the clarity of the AC's I am not happy with other cables any more.

JM, I just wanted to say that in part because of your reviews, and in part because I too noticed the unusual design choices made by Mister Greg Timbers when these came out... I just took delivery of my 530's on Friday. My system is hugely more modest than yours, but I like it and its within my budget. I had budgeted $1000 for new speakers in my 2 channel system. For the last several months I looked at every conceivable option and although there are plenty of amazing speakers in this price range, none of them peaked my interest like these.

At any rate, thank you for providing a first hand account of an enthusiast who dared to be an early adopter. In the past JBL has done just as much to hurt their home audio reputation (see previous studio series and everything they put out in the 90s) as they have done in ultra-high end audio (Array, K2, some other mountain in Nepal). It took someone not concerned with JBL's "Just Basically Loud" reputation to have the guts to check out something that contradicts conventional opinions. Kudos!

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JM, I just wanted to say that in part because of your reviews, and in part because I too noticed the unusual design choices made by Mister Greg Timbers when these came out... I just took delivery of my 530's on Friday. My system is hugely more modest than yours, but I like it and its within my budget. I had budgeted $1000 for new speakers in my 2 channel system. For the last several months I looked at every conceivable option and although there are plenty of amazing speakers in this price range, none of them peaked my interest like these.

At any rate, thank you for providing a first hand account of an enthusiast who dared to be an early adopter. In the past JBL has done just as much to hurt their home audio reputation (see previous studio series and everything they put out in the 90s) as they have done in ultra-high end audio (Array, K2, some other mountain in Nepal). It took someone not concerned with JBL's "Just Basically Loud" reputation to have the guts to check out something that contradicts conventional opinions. Kudos!

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I am glad you are enjoying them as much as I am. Lately I was switching my other speakers in and out of the system. They all had their benefits but for midrange purity, high frequency detail and the most tuneful bass if not the deepest the JBL's win. My tower speakers had deeper bass and greater musical scale and the other standmount speakers had a warmer sound that could limit detail. The JBL's might be a little lacking in dynamics but whenever the midrange is right you have music.

Oh and welcome to AR.

Thank you! And you're right, there are lots of options for making great sounding, highly entertaining music in the home, each with their own strengths and weaknesses. Have fun enjoying the tunes!

Lucky me, I got to go to Greg Timbers' house a couple of times, the last time to buy some speakers he built for himself that have been replaced by the next big thing. He let me listen to his new creations, which were astounding and better than what I bought, naturally, though what I got is better than anything I could buy out of the current JBL catalog.

Anyway, leaving his place there were some "new" speakers in his secondary listening room. When I inquired what they were, he said they were Studio 570s which "sound really good, better than they have any right to." He's rightfully proud of the Studio 530, 570, 580, and 590. He'd be really happy to hear how much you're enjoying them.

Thanks for highlighting your experiences

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Lucky me, I got to go to Greg Timbers' house a couple of times, the last time to buy some speakers he built for himself that have been replaced by the next big thing. He let me listen to his new creations, which were astounding and better than what I bought, naturally, though what I got is better than anything I could buy out of the current JBL catalog.

Anyway, leaving his place there were some "new" speakers in his secondary listening room. When I inquired what they were, he said they were Studio 570s which "sound really good, better than they have any right to." He's rightfully proud of the Studio 530, 570, 580, and 590. He'd be really happy to hear how much you're enjoying them.

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If you get the chance tell him I said thanks. I have been thinking about the 570's since I think they would work well in my smaller room. If he is impressed with them I am sure I would be pleased. I am thinking the Studio 5 Series will catch fire.

Sure will.

Listening to the Cowboy Junkies "Cause Cheap Is How I Feel" I realized how these speakers have opened up. In the past I had considered the tweeters to be accurate but on the dry side. As I have been listening the compression drivers had been breaking in right in front of me. Either I am a slow listener or these speakers have taken so long to bloom.

They certainly sounded good out of the box but more in an analytical way. They still have good detail and imaging but they are more musical. Gordon Lightfoot is singing now and his songs are soothing and comforting. Detail and soul. I knew I was liking these speakers more but until tonight it had not dawned on me why. Should I be enjoying speakers so much that is this inexpensive?

John, I'm not sure if you should. We see people come on the forum and talk about their great sounding Infinity, Polk, Bose and the likes and I'm sure most of us just figure that they haven't really heard what a hi-end sound system can do for your music appreciation. In your case, that's not the way it is. You've been around long enough and I'm sure you've heard your share of great sounding systems. I think you may just be settling for what you have and enjoying it, the some way I do when I'm in the car listening to the symphony channel on XM Radio. It sounds good at the time and you just sort of go with it. You might not know what you're missing until you get a different pair of speakers in and set them up next to your JBL's. Just my thoughts.

I am always speaking in context to price and how they fair with other speakers I own. Oh yes I have heard wonderful speakers and many way out of my price range. There are many speakers I would like to hear that are not available in an hours drive from my home. Another aspect of the speakers is they work well in my room. An average speaker that works well in a room in my opinion can sound better that a top quality tower with good bass that would have peaks and cancellations in my room.

I would love to hear a pair of Magico's, the newer Wilson's and newer Vandersteen's. In my budget I still want to hear the Nola Boxers, KEF LS50 and a Totem model. Oh and the Pro Ac Tablette is on my short list. I also plan on listeneing to the Focal 807's that has been making someone very happy on another site.

Sadly my job keeps me very busy and I rarely have two days off in a row. I do hope to do some listening this summer. If you get a chance give the Studio 5 series a listen as you might be surprised.

First, I think cost is sometimes a bit arbitrary. For the most part in audio, you typically get better performance when you spend more. However, these speakers are more popular in Europe and Japan where they cost nearly twice as much and compete with a different level of speaker than they do here. Personally, I haven't found a speaker under a grand that I enjoy more than these. They create such a rich, full-bodied sound stage and the HF driver sounds refined but with great dynamics that never compresses, even with the most complex musical passages. Plus, they straight up boogie. This morning I was listening to some old Thievery Corporation and it was so involving that I really hated to leave. There are a lot of great speaker options available, but there is no shame in enjoying these special creatures.

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First, I think cost is sometimes a bit arbitrary. For the most part in audio, you typically get better performance when you spend more. However, these speakers are more popular in Europe and Japan where they cost nearly twice as much and compete with a different level of speaker than they do here. Personally, I haven't found a speaker under a grand that I enjoy more than these. They create such a rich, full-bodied sound stage and the HF driver sounds refined but with great dynamics that never compresses, even with the most complex musical passages. Plus, they straight up boogie. This morning I was listening to some old Thievery Corporation and it was so involving that I really hated to leave. There are a lot of great speaker options available, but there is no shame in enjoying these special creatures.

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I think much of the affordability of the speaker is due to it being built in China. If it was still made in this country the price tag would be higher. A higher price tag might make some happier.

I agree with your description of the sound. The horn loaded compression driver is pretty special without any of the colorations I have heard from some horns. I was never a big JBL fan but this speaker is a different animal. Someone looking for a pair of speakers in this price range should surely listen to these. As you mention they are enjoyable and I find myself sitting and listening instead of just having background music playing.

When I find a speaker that beats these on many counts I am sure they will be quite expensive.

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I am always speaking in context to price and how they fair with other speakers I own. Oh yes I have heard wonderful speakers and many way out of my price range. There are many speakers I would like to hear that are not available in an hours drive from my home. Another aspect of the speakers is they work well in my room. An average speaker that works well in a room in my opinion can sound better that a top quality tower with good bass that would have peaks and cancellations in my room.

I would love to hear a pair of Magico's, the newer Wilson's and newer Vandersteen's. In my budget I still want to hear the Nola Boxers, KEF LS50 and a Totem model. Oh and the Pro Ac Tablette is on my short list. I also plan on listeneing to the Focal 807's that has been making someone very happy on another site.

Sadly my job keeps me very busy and I rarely have two days off in a row. I do hope to do some listening this summer. If you get a chance give the Studio 5 series a listen as you might be surprised.

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The main trouble with the JBL's is the only place that carries them is Best Buy.

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The main trouble with the JBL's is the only place that carries them is Best Buy.

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My local BB does not carry them. When I learned of them Crutchfield and JBL was the only place I could order them at the time. I do fully understand how the reputation of a store can elevate or reduce thoughts of a product. At one point I think I felt a little SVI buying some moderately priced JBL's but they are a different animal from all the budget titanium tweeter/quasi horn loaded speakers.

Last night I decided to pull out the OML 1's to give a quick listen. I have been living with the JBL's and thought a comparison might be needed. A young couple down the hall stopped by and I asked for their impression of the OML 1's. I thought they sounded bright in contrast to the JBL's. They listened and he said they were crisp. So after they left I brought the JBL's out and back on the stands. Oh yeah the music is back.

I can understand why Mo Fi used the OML 1's as mastering speakers. I think they are more high fidelity and the JBL's are more about the music than analysis. My neighbor wants to listen to some vinyl so I will look forward to his reaction to the Studio 530's.

I would never think the OML-1's would sound bright compared to the 530's. We are talking silk doom tweeter vs titanium tweeter right? You may just prefer the more detailed sound of the metal tweeters. My salesguy at my hifi shop does. He's not crazy about Sonus Faber and Vienna Acoustics that he sells and much prefers Paradigm. I'm running into more people that prefer solid state amps to tubes and I didn't see that coming.

Vienna Acoustics is toward the bottom of my speaker list along with Vandersteen. I don't like Sonus Faber either but they are more acceptable, some where around B&W on my list. I like Paradigm pretty well but I haven't heard many amps capable to drive the bass in them, odd since they are efficient but something in their curve requires some current.

The JBL like JM has may be titanium but it's smooth, the horns JBL are using in some of their speakers are some of the best I've heard and definitely the best I've heard in home speakers, very refined. I really liked the LS series too. The Array are awesome but that goes without saying. IMO the JBL Monitor are smoother highs than the Paradigm Studio. Can't say about the Signature, haven't heard them.

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I would never think the OML-1's would sound bright compared to the 530's. We are talking silk doom tweeter vs titanium tweeter right? You may just prefer the more detailed sound of the metal tweeters. My salesguy at my hifi shop does. He's not crazy about Sonus Faber and Vienna Acoustics that he sells and much prefers Paradigm. I'm running into more people that prefer solid state amps to tubes and I didn't see that coming.

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The JBL Studio 530's do not use titanium. They are using a true compression driver. My point was that these are not the budget JBL speakers of the past that used the bright titanium driver. This speaker's high frequency driver operates down to 1,500 Hz. The woofer is slightly recessed and judging by performance they are time aligned. The enclosure panels ar 3/4 inches thick with no parallel sides and well braced. The woofer has a cast aluminum frame and not pressed steel. This speaker is not well known yet but it is very good sounding. You might want to google it because I think you are picturing other JBL's of the past.

The 1 inch diaphragm and surround material is made from Teonex. It is reported to have better vocal articulation and I can attest to that statement.

I would like to thank Mr. P and Thriftstore Cowboy for their comments based on their actually listening to the speakers. Judging a product unheard has little value.

I was just going by what the salesman at Best Buy said. He said it was a compression driver similar to what is used in Klipsch, which he had to play for me also. Not the best environment to listen to speakers. Neither speaker was to my liking, but that could be attributed to lots of things like associated equipment and room acoustics.

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I was just going by what the salesman at Best Buy said. He said it was a compression driver similar to what is used in Klipsch, which he had to play for me also. Not the best environment to listen to speakers. Neither speaker was to my liking, but that could be attributed to lots of things like associated equipment and room acoustics.

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Best Buy does not carry the Studio 5 Series. They also do not sound anything like Klipsch. BB carries one JBL bookshelf that is a different Studio series but not in the league of the Studio 5 series. You might want to try listeneing to them if you ever actually are in a store that carries them.

Again the Best Buy saleman must have shown me any pair of JBL's that he had on the floor. He figured if I like them I'd buy them. That's the trouble, nobody carries them. The HiFi stores say they can't sell them because they're not hi end. They used to sell Bose a while back and they just didn't move. I don't have a Crutchfield around here. Even the HiFi magazines don't review them.

What Hi Fi reviewed them and gave them 5 stars. Many products never get reviewed. So you have never heard them or read about them but you are able to disparage them. I think that is what is wrong about audio forums. Baseless opinions.

I was told I was hearing them and I based my opinion on that. You must lead a charmed life if everybody tells you the truth JM. The first opinion I form about a product is by reading a review if possible. Then I go and listen to the product if possible. I always make sure the product has at least a 30 day return policy as you never know how something will match up with your gear. But one rule of audio I always abide by is that I never spend four times more on my amp then my speakers cost.

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I was told I was hearing them and I based my opinion on that. You must lead a charmed life if everybody tells you the truth JM. The first opinion I form about a product is by reading a review if possible. Then I go and listen to the product if possible. I always make sure the product has at least a 30 day return policy as you never know how something will match up with your gear. But one rule of audio I always abide by is that I never spend four times more on my amp then my speakers cost.

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Snap! I already had the amp and I bought the speakers on a whim and they turned out to be quite nice. Oh and since I bought them on sale I want you to know my amp costs 5 times as much. :-)

I was tweaking placement last night I am pleased with the results. I originally had the speakers wide with more toe-in and now they are 8 inches closer to one another but with slightly less toe-in. I still have that excellent focus that I first noticed when they were new. Now with my braced turntable the soundstage is wider and the new position of the speakers takes greater advantage of the improvement.

I've updated my home theater speakers in my living room to the Wharfedale Diamonds (because hey, they're so affordable) which has made for an interesting, if slightly unfair, comparison to the JBLs. My brother had the best analogy yesterday, he said the Diamonds were like a 37" 720p plasma using the "vivid" calibration settings, where the JBL 530's were like a 72" 1080p professionally calibrated... much bigger image, gobs more detail and much more realistic. We ended up listening to the JBL's for 2 and half hours and totally got lost in the music. So much fun! I enjoy the Wharfedale's for HT and some music, but the JBL's are really in an entirely different league when it comes to refinement.

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I've updated my home theater speakers in my living room to the Wharfedale Diamonds (because hey, they're so affordable) which has made for an interesting, if slightly unfair, comparison to the JBLs. My brother had the best analogy yesterday, he said the Diamonds were like a 37" 720p plasma using the "vivid" calibration settings, where the JBL 530's were like a 72" 1080p professionally calibrated... much bigger image, gobs more detail and much more realistic. We ended up listening to the JBL's for 2 and half hours and totally got lost in the music. So much fun! I enjoy the Wharfedale's for HT and some music, but the JBL's are really in an entirely different league when it comes to refinement.

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Cowboy, why don't you give a review of the Diamonds? Which model are they and are they broken in and what gear are you using with them? I have heard older Wharfedales, 9 series and really liked their sound. The 10.1's and 10.2's are supposed to be a very good speaker. Detailed, warmer sounding and a little laid back in character. I am sure that the JBL's are probably the polar opposite. I would like to hear the JBL's.

And did you compare the JBL's and the Diamonds with the same gear or in different systems?