New Speakers from GR-Research......What would be a good name for these speakers?

[Soundideas]

New speakers, no name yet. What would you name these speakers? This site is real busy sometimes, just try it again later...... http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/v...ic.php?t=21620

[N. Abstentia]

How about "Fugly"?

Or "Tip-Over Waiting to Happen"?

Or "Alon Rip-Off"?

[SlumpBuster]

"Broken Link Special"?

[Soundideas]

"Broken Link Special"?

Sometimes this link doesn't work ........I just tried it, its working now.......

[nightflier]

I have to agree with N.Abst., they are not the most attractive speakers. But this is not so much because of the design as the colors. I would have suggested a beech veneer instead.

I also wonder about this speaker being overkill with too many drivers. My first thought is that it would make for a very confused speaker, one with little pinpoint accuracy.

For a name, I would stick to a model number to start. D555 would be a decent name, I suppose. The four digits and three fives remind one of complexity, which is definitely the first thing that comes to mind when I see the speaker. I don't know how commercially viable such a speaker would be.

Anyhow, that's my 2 cents...

[pelly3s]

i never understood speakers with so many drivers. I think everything can be done right with a good pair of two ways. Its like the speakers with a colum of tweeters where most of them are way about ear level and they are completely useless

[Florian]

How about "A-Phily" or "SoundExPerience"

afterall, its about the sound and not the looks. If there would be a speaker out there that would sound better than my fullrange panels and would be cute i would own it already.

Sound first, who cares about the looks. Its not a cute B&W or Paradigm box!

-Flo

[PAT.P]

How about "A-Phily" or "SoundExPerience"

afterall, its about the sound and not the looks. If there would be a speaker out there that would sound better than my fullrange panels and would be cute i would own it already.

Sound first, who cares about the looks. Its not a cute B&W or Paradigm box!

-Flo

Flo thought you were in the steel cage? Not a single thread on your behalf?

[N. Abstentia]

The only bad thing about those speakers is that they sound like crap until you coat them with Soundideas's magical pixie snot contact enhancer that he loves to sell.

[kexodusc]

i never understood speakers with so many drivers. I think everything can be done right with a good pair of two ways. Its like the speakers with a colum of tweeters where most of them are way about ear level and they are completely useless

Those tweeters in the line arrays (those column speakers you mentioned) are anything but useless. You might be interested to know that most line arrays ARE 2-way speakers.

Some benefits of the line array are:
Minimizes floor and ceiling reflections (similar to MTM array)
Maintains a wide listening area with little sound intensity fall off vs. distance (smaller drivers are much better at producing wide dispersions by nature, better imaging and soundstage)
Exceptional dynamic range and linearity (dynamic range often exceeding 120 dB)
Higher SPL
Reduces distortion as power is dispersed among several drivers
Low moving mass for higher speed and superior transient attack

Line arrays are NOT easy to build or cheap. But the performance gains can be incredible.

[E-Stat]

i never understood speakers with so many drivers. I think everything can be done right with a good pair of two ways.

Tall arrays place you closer to the stage in perspective and create a more lifelike rendition of image size, IMHO. Say row G rather than Y.

After living with seven foot tall full range stats for twenty odd years, I found that a single pair of New Advents in my vintage garage system shrunk the image too much. Bought a second pair and run them stacked in a quasi D'Appolito configuration. (no tweeters on the ceiling!).

rw

[E-Stat]

I also wonder about this speaker being overkill with too many drivers. My first thought is that it would make for a very confused speaker, one with little pinpoint accuracy.

While I can't speak for the GRs, I assure you these Nolas do not suffer from a lack of pinpoint accuracy. I've heard a particularly nicely driven pair on many an occasion.



rw

[nightflier]

Granted, they probably sound fantastic, and all those drivers probably contribute to that sound, but the real question is what's the point of diminishing returns when adding drivers? For a home-built speaker, you have to ask yourself that question as each driver costs money not just by itself, but also to incorporate it into the design. How much overlap does each driver have with the driver right next to it? Unlike with Nola where money is apparently no object, Soundideas has to consider what his costs will be if he wants to sell these speakers (which is why I presume he was asking for a name in the first place).

From just looking at the pictures, and not having heard the speakers, my first gut reaction was that the looks of these speakers would make them hard to sell. Some things like the wood not being attractive, are easy to fix. But the number of drivers has to be be in line with the sound quality. There are still a lot of drivers on the front and sides that a potential buyer will not understand the use of. My guess is that the aluminum-and-plastic-BB-CC-GG-Bose-loving crowd is not going to appreciate the look and size. Likewise the mid-fi / hi-fi crowd will question the complexity since they tend to prefer simplicity.

But again, these are just gut reactions from seing the pics and never having heard the speakers, which may also be the reaction of a potential buyer seeing these speakers in an add or online.

[Florian]

You raise a good point, but this system will run for enough money that the people who have the ability will listen before they buy. To many, looks are not important especially to those seeking the higher end in high end. I took all my electronics and cables with me when auditioning the DIVAS. I checked the seriel numbers, production date, import papers and the new ribbons. I spent many hrs and days on research before droping the aprox. 10,000$ (trade in plus cash) on it. I think they look great, but considering their placment criteria and size they will not apeal to the average listener. I think the linearray is similar, and the people who seek it and can afford it wont care too much about the looks.

-Flo

[topspeed]

I think the linearray is similar, and the people who seek it and can afford it wont care too much about the looks.
-Flo

Or they're single .

Nightflier,
"Granola" is so blatantly obvious, I can't believe no one else thought of that! Kudos, brother. We have winner!

BTW, can we all stop feeding the troll now?

[E-Stat]

Granted, they probably sound fantastic, and all those drivers probably contribute to that sound, but the real question is what's the point of diminishing returns when adding drivers?

Enormous dynamic capability, clarity and image size. Anything but a "confused" speaker. They make the walls disappear when driven properly.

For a home-built speaker, you have to ask yourself that question as each driver costs money not just by itself, but also to incorporate it into the design.

There is certainly nothing wrong with practical compromise designs. Most folks don't spend $120k on speakers.

rw

[Soundideas]

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