New Speakers Finally!

here are some pics for you guys to see. still setting them up and breaking in

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Well I've got approximately 6.5 or 7 hours on them and they are already showing promise. They image as good or better than most stand mount speakers due to their point source setup and compression driver going from 800hz and up. Also the midrange has none of that slight different sounding transmission from the woofer to the tweeter that my Dyns had. And the compression driver is very detailed while not being fatiguing. Clayton advised me to put at least 24 to 48 hours on them before really doing some critical listening because they will totally develop in that time.

Congrats again it sounds like you are liking your choice. Reading your impressions makes me miss my systems while I am stuck out here in LA.

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Looking very neat!! Keep us updated.

Put your tuner on and let them play while you are out or doing other things. Vocals are sounding alright, natural? Happy for you, I know you've been waiting for a long time for this.

So far I am really digging these speakers. Vocals sound awesome to me, very natural and more detailed than the Dyns, There is no crossover point above 800hz so that makes a huge difference on the midrange I believe, every time another couple of hours gets on them they seem to change and mature, they have a very distinct break in that really changes as they are played probably more than any other speaker I have been around or owned. I am really liking the compression driver in these things. My wife and I were listening yesterday and she sat down and listened to a classical piece that she likes and mentioned that she can listen to these speakers louder than the Dynaudios because as she says the Spatials are not as fatiquing as the Dyaudios at high volumes. The Spatials have Dynamics in spades that really wake up the room on dynamic material. I am not going to go into too much more detail until they are fully broke in and I do some more critical listening but so far it has been a great experience.

Glad to hear that you are liking them. How are the high frequencies? How are sibilants?

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Glad to hear that you are liking them. How are the high frequencies? How are sibilants?

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To me they are very lifelike and natural. There is a definite strong treble energy from the compression driver but the one crazy thing I love about a really good compression driver is that even though the treble is strong life in real life and very defined it never gets overly exaggerated or smearing like some dome tweeters can when the volumes increase. I don't think these are broke in quite yet but are getting better all the time

Another update. I had today off and spent the day doing some listening to various music and one thing I will tell you right now even though Clayton said to put 48 hours on them before really critically listening is that even though I am only at around 30 hours they are starting to show their stuff. On classical music they have a very awesome since of real space as far as the venue that the music was recorded. The dynamics for classical are very good and life like. Also on all music the drums are very dynamic. Tom tom drums on drum sets sound real woody and have tone like real tom toms not just a dull thud like a lot of speakers give. Bass drums sound like bass drums not a dull thump. The imaging is as good as any stand mount I have heard since they are point source, and instruments have a very good separation between them and every instrument has its own space in the stage. You can really tell where each player is much more then my previous speakers and vocals and guitars really have the tone that they were recorded with. I was listeing to Steve Ray Vaughn today and his signature Fender amp hums right along with the music to the left of center stage on songs like "The Sky Is Crying" much more than any speaker I have ever known. And the overall soundstage is spooky realistic. More to come as the speakers break in

Congrats, Harley! It sounds like you've got a winner there! I like the look of these, they remind me of mini-Maggies. Being open baffle, have you noticed any benefit/detriment based on proximity to the back wall?

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Congrats, Harley! It sounds like you've got a winner there! I like the look of these, they remind me of mini-Maggies. Being open baffle, have you noticed any benefit/detriment based on proximity to the back wall?

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I presume that the compression drive is 'monopole', right? Or does it have a back-firing one too?

Having monopole driver above 800 Hz might have a different effect than a full-range dipole.

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I presume that the compression drive is 'monopole', right? Or does it have a back-firing one too?

Having monopole driver above 800 Hz might have a different effect than a full-range dipole.

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The compression driver is monopole. I don't believe his M3's have rear firing tweeters, but I haven't poured over the specs.

Correct it is a monopole compression driver. But to be honest they are very open sounding and the dipole lower midrange really helps open up the sound. The main thing I notice is the lack of "box" sound that enclosure speakers always have unless you buy a model that is well into the double digit thousands and has a multi braced enclosure. these have a real live sense to them. The compression drivers allow them to get louder without ever sounding fatiguing which is the main thing my wife learned after hearing them.

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Correct it is a monopole compression driver. But to be honest they are very open sounding and the dipole lower midrange really helps open up the sound. The main thing I notice is the lack of "box" sound that enclosure speakers always have unless you buy a model that is well into the double digit thousands and has a multi braced enclosure. these have a real live sense to them. The compression drivers allow them to get louder without ever sounding fatiguing which is the main thing my wife learned after hearing them.

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That non-fatiguing nature is a combination of the compression driver and the source equipment. Rotel did not play well with my JBL's at all. Whether it was the revealing nature of the speakers or a simple lack of synergy, the 1095 I had briefly in my system made me want to turn it down instead of up. It's the first time the Array's were anything less than liquid smooth on the top end. I don't have this issue with either the Pass or PS Audio.

Yeah you are probably right topspeed, I really do love what my choice of amp gives me, and to be honest the NuForce preamp is no slouch either when it comes to the fatigue factor. The NuForce P8 has been known to be a very "tube" sounding preamp even compared to some tube units. That's not to say that it suffers from some tube preamp inability to gave good highs and solid bass which is not the case here. When it comes to tube preamps you just have to swallow the fact that you really have to spend some money to get a real good one. The Nuforce pre punches above its weight and really does a good job in many regards. Some day I might replace it with something totally balanced to give the Pass the signal it really yearns for but I am running XLR cables right now from the preamp to the Pass and it really makes a huge difference.

update after break in. I believe they have around 40+ hours on them now with me listening and leaving them on when we are gone. I will say right now that it took quite a while for the bass to develop on these speakers but they have. The compression drivers on the M3 Turbo's are excellent. The highs are very detailed and smooth with zero fatigue factor and my wife keeps saying how she can listen to these for hours with out wanting to leave the room due to volume. We listened for hours yesterday and loved it. The M3's are magical at soundstaging and imaging and do better then probably any speaker I have heard recently when it comes to these things. Also there is zero crossover distortions and I cannot tell when one driver hands over to another. Also the separation of instruments is world class in my book and are as good or better than any speaker I have heard. So far I am very impressed and am loving my system more than ever

Congrats Harley. It is so satisfying when a new piece of gear works out.

I can't wait till I get a chance to hear these speakers.