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    You guys should have just recommended he upgrade to Bose... You just *know* that is what he is going to wind up with someday anyway based on his requirements for "good" sound. At least with Bose we don't have to educate SVI on phony specs.

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    (Mike walks into the room. Sees LJ smoking an old pair of socks. NAB's head is blown off. Maybe it's from the two speakers he has jammed up his butt? Speedy is talking about something being right up Spanky's alley. There's a kinky poster on the wall of Dino in cuffs)
    (Does NOT turn arround, but slowly backs out of the room while making a cross with two fingers)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Chalk
    WTH is "Class H"?
    horrendous


    Bose for SVI? He'd never go for that, no published specs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Chalk
    WTH is "Class H"?


    Class H and Class G amplifiers are marked by variation of the supply rails (in discrete steps or in a continuous fashion, respectively) following the input signal. Wasted heat on the output devices can be reduced as excess voltage is kept to a minimum. The amplifier that is fed with these rails itself can be of any class. These kinds of amplifiers are more complex, and are mainly used for specialized applications, such as very high-power units. Also, Class E and Class F amplifiers are commonly described in literature for radio frequencies applications where efficiency of the traditional classes deviate substantially from their ideal values. These classes use harmonic tuning of their output networks to achieve higher efficiency and can be considered a subset of Class C due to their conduction angle characteristics.
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    Oh My God!!

    Spanky,
    Maybe you haven't read the huge topic that we made for you, there was some really useful stuff in it...

    but,
    obviously you didn't read it, and your immense stupidity just told you to go on...
    so you did the what we said you not to do. A downgrade.

    oh, and your speakers don't reach anywhere near 45 hz, maybe they reach 100hz, really soft. and they don't go higher neither, in fact, they'll probably don't even reach 15khz, not stable at least...

    and then, you say you have more bass eh?
    now that's just a thought, you have the same, or less bass as the jbl's, you just have less treble.

    admit it, you're stupid.
    and you won't even listen to what we have to say.



    congrats
    you just gave me a headache.

    Where's flo, i'm sure he'll laugh his ass of...


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    and spanky,
    the next time you do something like that.

    I'll find you, and will personally shoot you!
    Life is music!

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    Man, my 5ft long tweeter ribbon doesnt do 50KHz I need some of Spankys tweeters
    Lots of music but not enough time for it all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florian
    Man, my 5ft long tweeter ribbon doesnt do 50KHz I need some of Spankys tweeters
    You should replace your 'towers of crap' with some $39 Sony's from Best Buy. They sound sooo somooth and soooo claer plus they sound like speakers costied $130 because the poly lamianinate tweeter are the same plus the box is cardbaord and the woffer cones are yellow so they go low and sound crips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florian
    Man, my 5ft long tweeter ribbon doesnt do 50KHz I need some of Spankys tweeters
    can beryllium (focal jm lab) or diamond (b&w) go to 50kHz smoothly?
    ... gotta research now...lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock789
    can beryllium (focal jm lab) or diamond (b&w) go to 50kHz smoothly?
    ... gotta research now...lol
    I dunno about that, but the extension of the Berylliums is supposed to be extremely high.

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    apparently yes for the focal to 40kHz
    http://www.utopia-be.com/Technology/Beryllium.htm

    and yes for the b&w
    Studies show that diamond's first breakup frequency in this application is as high as 80.8 kilohertz—roughly three times that of aluminum.
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    From what I recall reading, Focal claims they lack the ability to truly measure the range of the Be tweeters, that their equipment cuts out at 40Khz, but that it should reach up near 100Khz.

    Fat lot of good that does, I'm sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by emorphien
    From what I recall reading, Focal claims they lack the ability to truly measure the range of the Be tweeters, that their equipment cuts out at 40Khz, but that it should reach up near 100Khz.

    Fat lot of good that does, I'm sure
    woot!
    I want to play up to 100kHz and mess with all the dogs and cats in the area
    rofl!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock789
    woot!
    I want to play up to 100kHz and mess with all the dogs and cats in the area
    rofl!
    Play them loud after dark. You may get a few bats to fly into your house.
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    I don't think that 100khz is hearable, not even for cats and dogs...

    but give it a try I guess,
    B&W's CM7's tweeter goes up to 50 khz -6 db,
    and you pay $1600 for that!

    and once again the most utterly stupid spanky only looked at the specs....
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    I measured my system when fully active and they drop at 34KHz....but then again Apogee quoted 35KHz so they where right on the money. They do this for real tough, in a real room But i cant hear **** above 19600Hz anyways...LOL


    but man i wish i had those Sonys
    Last edited by Florian; 02-02-2007 at 09:56 AM.
    Lots of music but not enough time for it all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florian
    I measured my system when fully active and they drop at 34KHz....but then again Apogee quoted 35KHz so they where right of the money. They do this for real tough, in a real room But i cant hear **** above 19600Hz anyways...LOL


    but man i wish i had those Sonys
    Maybe you can work out a trade. Throw in a new cat and pay for all the shipping and he may go for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    Maybe you can work out a trade. Throw in a new cat and pay for all the shipping and he may go for it.
    Wanna bet that if i show him my Grands and a JBL bookshelve he would pick the JBL?
    Lots of music but not enough time for it all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florian
    Wanna bet that if i show him my Grands and a JBL bookshelve he would pick the JBL?
    What kind of odds can you give me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Florian
    Wanna bet that if i show him my Grands and a JBL bookshelve he would pick the JBL?

    he'll ask us first which one is the best,
    and after we all said that the grands were the uber system, he'll eventually buy the jbl's...

    btw,
    tomorrow, my cousin an me are going to pick up his new speakers, he had a cheapish jvc mini 'system' and recently, his dad gave him his old technics (sa-400) receiver, then, he started to interest himself in audio stuff, and decided to buy new speakers,

    so I gave him some options and we went to audition the speakers,
    he eventually chose Monitor Audio BR2's (he was on somekind of a budget)

    they sounded really good for the money, and it will be a huge improvement over his previous jvc crap...


    So, spanky,
    now you know what to do.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    What kind of odds can you give me?
    Wanna find out? we should ask him....do you or should i?

    -Flo
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    how about sending him something vintage? like a vintage JBL speaker? or something else which outperforms all his speakers?
    it would be cheap, and he'll shut up about buying new speakers...


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    Smile ROFL!!!! Get a load of my plan for my "Sonys"

    Quote Originally Posted by Florian
    I measured my system when fully active and they drop at 34KHz....but then again Apogee quoted 35KHz so they where right of the money. They do this for real tough, in a real room But i cant hear **** above 19600Hz anyways...LOL


    but man i wish i had those Sonys
    All speakers set to large via Pioneer VSX 1016-TSV speaker setup

    Main: 4 SS-MB-350H 3 way 8" "bookshelf" speakers driven by two Behringer EP2500 amps with low frequency cutoff set at 50hz. (2 on each side)

    Center: 2 CN-550H driven by one Behringer Ep2500 amp in parallel mono mode with low frequency cutoff set at 50hz(placed next to each other to simulate the appearance of one large speaker)

    Side Rears: 2 SS-MF550H 8" 3 way floorstanders and 2 SS-MB150H bookshelf speakers. They are on each side of the room with the 550s on the floor and the 150s on a shelf near the ceiling. Powered by 2 Behringer EP2500 amps with cutoff set at 50hz..

    Center Surround/Surround Back: 2 SS-MF550H and 2 SS-MB150H with the 550s on the floor and 150s mounted near the ceiling directly above. Powered by two Behringer EP2500 amps with cutoff set at 50hz.

    Subwoofers: Two Pyle PSAW-18 18" subs powered by a singlw Behringer EP2500 in parallel mono mode. That should fill in the lower echelon where the Sonys fail.

    Now, I don't have all that stuff yet but that is my mission. I just know the experts would say that is probably insanity but I just love a challenge and I really don't mind taking the risk.

    Anyhow, I'm home sick from work and this thread has really helped me forget for awhile just how much this past week has sucked as I type this with bloodshot red eyes. So keep em coming. I and brother Vanilla will defend these to the last.

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    He won't even read the request unless both of the following are tue:

    He asked us about them first.
    The answer we gave him is the answer he was expecting or wanted.

    But hey, who else could spur so many replies in less than a day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert-The-Rambler
    Now, I don't have all that stuff yet but that is my mission. I just know the experts would say that is probably insanity but I just love a challenge and I really don't mind taking the risk.

    Anyhow, I'm home sick from work and this thread has really helped me forget for awhile just how much this past week has sucked as I type this with bloodshot red eyes. So keep em coming. I and brother Vanilla will defend these to the last.

    how about starting all over again on the speakers part...

    seriously, try something like cerwin vega or so...
    they should be more "capable" of handling that kind of power...

    and you'll no longer *need* the subs,
    of course, for surround, you'll be better of with them, but really,
    give them a chance.

    Keep them spinning,
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