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    Ughhh...hack...hack...

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    Unless you're part dog...something I'm not prepared to completely rule out....
    ...Man...nearly choked on my apple LOL...

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    Quote Originally Posted by basite
    and once again the most utterly stupid spanky only looked at the specs....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resident Loser
    ...Man...nearly choked on my apple LOL...

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    geepers, the jig is up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock789


    ???
    Life is music!

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    Smile I can always change the speakers later

    Quote Originally Posted by basite
    how about starting all over again on the speakers part...

    seriously, try something like cerwin vega or so...
    they should be more "capable" of handling that kind of power...

    and you'll no longer *need* the subs,
    of course, for surround, you'll be better of with them, but really,
    give them a chance.

    Keep them spinning,
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    The amplifiers will last for many years. Actually I was looking into class H technology and some high end companies like Carver have used that style amp in their home theater amplifiers. I figure that 8 EP2500s at 450 watts a channel should keep me saaisfied for the next 10 years or more from an amplification standpoint. And it is never too loud. You can just turn the volume down and make adjustments if it is too loud. Anyhow, I really do enjoy these speakers. I recently hooked up my DCM KX 12 Series 2 speakers which are like Cerwin Vegas a bit and was not that happy with how harsh the highs from the horn style tweeter can get and once you've heard subs driven with a lot of power at the low end it is hard to hear any floorstander the same again. Anyhow, thanks for your advice.

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    Sorry sparky...

    ...this is downloaded fro SONYs website:

    Add astounding sound to your television and music entertainment with Sony's SS-MB150H Book Shelf Speaker. Featuring a 5 1/4" Improved H.O.P. Cone - Bass Driver, 1" Nano-Fine® Balanced Dome Tweeter, Sound Reproduction to 50 kHz (for High Resolution Audio), 120 Watts of Maximum Input Power, and a Frequency Range of 80Hz - 50kHz, this 2 Way, 2 Driver Book Shelf Speaker will enhance your home entertainment experience. Additional features included for your convenience are Push Type Speaker Connections, a Magnetic Shield, a Removable Grille Cloth, and a Speaker Cable. Listen to the difference the SS-MB150H makes.


    2 Way, 2 Driver Book Shelf Speaker
    5 1/4" Improved H.O.P. Cone - Bass Driver
    1" Nano-Fine® Balanced Dome Tweeter
    Sound Reproduction to 50 kHz (for High Resolution Audio)
    120W Maximum Input Power
    Frequency Range 80Hz - 50kHz
    8 ohm Impedance
    Inputs
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    Convenience Features
    Magnetically Shielded
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    Includes Speaker Cable
    General Features
    Black Ash Type finish
    2 Way, 2 Driver Book Shelf Speaker
    5 1/4" Improved H.O.P. Cone : Bass Driver
    1" Nano-Fine® Balanced Dome Tweeter
    Bass Reflex Enclosure
    One Pair Per Package
    Audio Features
    Sound Reproduction to 50 kHz : (for High Resolution Audio)
    120W Maximum Input Power
    SUPPLIED ACCESSORIES
    Instruction Manual
    Speaker Wire
    WEIGHT
    Approx. 6.4 lbs. (2.9 kg)
    DIMENSIONS
    Approx. 6.6" x 9.8" x 7.2" (170 x 250 x 185 mm)


    Same info at the BB site, although they said something about a Kevlar woofer:

    Bass reflex enclosures for enhanced bass response Magnetically shielded for multimedia applications 5-1/4" woofer constructed of lightweight, ultrarigid KEVLAR® for excellent transient response with minimal distortion (KEVLAR is a registered trademark of DuPont) Removable cloth grille Frequency Response: 80Hz - 50kHz Sensitivity: 87dB Impedance: 8 Ohms

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    not all cerwin vegas are horn loaded though...

    check their VE series for example...

    I don't like too harsh sounds neither

    Keep them spinning,
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    Life is music!

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    I havent actually read this thread, but what are we discussing?
    Lots of music but not enough time for it all

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    svi's new "addition", $50 sony speakers...

    and some more random stuff...

    general SVI thread...


    Keep them spinning,
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    Life is music!

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    You guys keep telling him that his speakers don't go up as high as they claim they do -- I think that's the wrong response. The speakers might very well go up that high. They just sound like carp within that frequency range. There is no spec for "carplike". If there was, I think those tiny Sony's and JBL's would be up there.
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    Whow he bought new speakers :-) Grats man
    Lots of music but not enough time for it all

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    Absolutely...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Chalk
    You guys keep telling him that his speakers don't go up as high as they claim they do -- I think that's the wrong response. The speakers might very well go up that high. They just sound like carp within that frequency range. There is no spec for "carplike". If there was, I think those tiny Sony's and JBL's would be up there.
    ...while back there were all those ceramic and piezo tweets that could do that...of course they sound like an un-oiled band saw cutting through a squirming pig...

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    Quote Originally Posted by basite


    ???
    I'm the one who looked up the specs ROFL
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    no no,
    I ment that SVI bought his speakers by just looking at the specs...
    Life is music!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resident Loser
    ...while back there were all those ceramic and piezo tweets that could do that...of course they sound like an un-oiled band saw cutting through a squirming pig...

    jimHJJ(...my apologies...make that rusty metal...)
    I built a pair of speakers with piezo tweeters back in the 70's. After about 20 minutes I pulled them apart to start over. Like nails on a chalk board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basite
    no no,
    I ment that SVI bought his speakers by just looking at the specs...
    haha
    I now understand
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMichael
    I built a pair of speakers with piezo tweeters back in the 70's. After about 20 minutes I pulled them apart to start over. Like nails on a chalk board.
    what are piezo tweeters good for?
    I had a pair of radioshack many years ago... and they really helped the highs, but had a horrible hissing sound often...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock789
    what are piezo tweeters good for?
    I had a pair of radioshack many years ago... and they really helped the highs, but had a horrible hissing sound often...
    They are good at looking great on a spec sheet. They go very high but sound awful. That's why they cost 0.65 each.
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    Piezo and Sony, wow I can't wait to buy some. I love a forum format butttt honestly how aweful can life truly be to sit here and join in and not only reply once but multiple times in one thread. I can think of a different kind of multiple that would be allot more fun, and I don't mean vitamin's either. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by basite
    no no,
    I ment that SVI bought his speakers by just looking at the specs...
    Yeah but they are sooo crips and soo claer they sound just like studidio monitors that costed over $120 that they use in suditidos because they souund so lifelike and clear. The man at Best Buy said they are maid like spakears costed lots more because they have yello woffers.

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    rofl!

    maybe I'll have to bring him myself, but once in his life,
    SVI WILL VISIT A HIGH END SHOP!
    Life is music!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock789
    what are piezo tweeters good for?
    I had a pair of radioshack many years ago... and they really helped the highs, but had a horrible hissing sound often...
    Piezo tweeter technology has come a looooong way since then. Gallo uses a cylindrical (sp?) piezo tweeter on their Ref3 and there's another hi-end manufacturer out there using them as well, although the name escapes me at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topspeed
    Piezo tweeter technology has come a looooong way since then. Gallo uses a cylindrical (sp?) piezo tweeter on their Ref3 and there's another hi-end manufacturer out there using them as well, although the name escapes me at the moment.
    Do you know if they use a resistor in parallel? I've heard that this can help tame them. I put 2 piezo's in series with each other, that were in parallel with a soft dome. I still had to pull them out and snip the wires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basite
    rofl!

    maybe I'll have to bring him myself, but once in his life,
    SVI WILL VISIT A HIGH END SHOP!

    Dude, we tried this already, visit the "Lets help SVI" thread...

    we'll all go over to his house and drag him kicking and screaming into a high end show and watch him start crying when he hears his first pair of hifi speakers... *sniff*
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    I'm not going anywhere near his house. If all this other stuff wasn't enough, the fact that he still has his cat's litterbox by his bed scares the bejesus out of me. His cat died 2 years ago. I guess the litterbox is some kind of 'turd vigil' for the cat or something.

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