"best speaker" based of frequency

[PAUL250268]

Hi

Which of the following speaker specifications is "best"? Will be used as fronts in conjunction with a sub. 50% music and 50% movies.

(a) 80Hz - 22kHz

or

(b) 50Hz - 22kHz

Thanks


Paul

[jrhymeammo]

This one looks suspcious, but I'll bite.

What speakers are you talking about?

[bobsticks]

Specifically, to which two speakers do you refer?

What are the associated electronics? (amps, pre's, and source)

What are the room conditions?

[02audionoob]

Hi

Which of the following speaker specifications is "best"? Will be used as fronts in conjunction with a sub. 50% music and 50% movies.

(a) 80Hz - 22kHz

or

(b) 50Hz - 22kHz

Thanks


Paul

All else being equal, the better spec is b. Which is the better speaker? Anybody's guess.

[PAUL250268]

Basic HT set-up.

HTD center (flat panel) http://www.htd.com/cabinet-speakers/...-panel-speaker

HTD Level 2 sub

Sony Blu ray player
Onkyo SR TX 507 5.1 receiver


I currently have above plus 2 pairs of in walls http://www.htd.com/in-wall-ceiling-s...-wall-speakers It works well but we have just bought a new home and I am little concerned that the right hand side wall does not have the same "density" as the left because it's a false wall.

So, I was wondering whether I should just go with 2 flat panels L & R.

I don't have room for floor standing speakers and I'm on a budget.

And why did the post look suspicious?

Thanks

Paul

[02audionoob]

Basic HT set-up.

HTD center (flat panel) http://www.htd.com/cabinet-speakers/...-panel-speaker

HTD Level 2 sub

Sony Blu ray player
Onkyo SR TX 507 5.1 receiver

I currently have above plus 2 pairs of in walls http://www.htd.com/in-wall-ceiling-s...-wall-speakers It works well but we have just bought a new home and I am little concerned that the right hand side wall does not have the same "density" as the left because it's a false wall.

So, I was wondering whether I should just go with 2 flat panels L & R.
I don't have room for floor standing speakers and I'm on a budget.
And why did the post look suspicious?

Thanks

Paul

I don't understand how this information relates to or clarifies the original question, but it's likely still useful. I also don't understand what a false wall is or how that would affect your decision on the number of speakers. If you want to be able to maximize your movie experience, you'll need 5 speakers in addition to the sub...but I guess you knew that. Can you explain the intent of the original question?

[PAUL250268]

I don't understand how this information relates to or clarifies the original question, but it's likely still useful. I also don't understand what a false wall is or how that would affect your decision on the number of speakers. If you want to be able to maximize your movie experience, you'll need 5 speakers in addition to the sub...but I guess you knew that. Can you explain the intent of the original question?

Sorry. The "rough" photoshop area to the right of the fireplace is now a sheetrock wall.

My questions is :

In walls or flat panel mounted onto surface of wall.

Thanks.

Paul

[02audionoob]

No question in my mind out of those two options. I'd go for the 4 little in-wall speakers and a center. It just seems more like the way home theater audio ought to work.

[PAUL250268]

All else being equal, the better spec is b. Which is the better speaker? Anybody's guess.

Hi

Thanks for the response.

Could you explain why.


Paul

[blackraven]

I vote for in wall also for home theater. Its a cleaner look. I feel that HT should be inconspicuous if possible. Who wants 5-7 speakers sitting visible in a room? (some people would I'm sure).

And spec B is better because of the greater frequency range. B dips down lower so your cross over point can be a little lower with the sub.

[02audionoob]

Hi

Thanks for the response.

Could you explain why.


Paul

Your original question asked about nothing more than the range of frequency response. A wider range would mean that the speaker will respond to and reproduce a wider range. That's added capability not offered with the spec of a narrrower range.

I said that with all else being equal...meaning a speaker could have a narrower range of frequency response and still be the better speaker of the two.

The reasons I like the 4 in-wall speakers as compared to the 2 panel speakers are (a) I suspect the panel speakers could lose their focus with all those drivers and HT relies heavily on location of sound and (b) your panel option offered fewer speakers than is required for the full 5.1 program, again compromising location and direction of sound.

[blackraven]

Very true Noob. Its only if all things are equal except for the freq. response can you say B is better.

[PAUL250268]

Your original question asked about nothing more than the range of frequency response. A wider range would mean that the speaker will respond to and reproduce a wider range. That's added capability not offered with the spec of a narrrower range.

I said that with all else being equal...meaning a speaker could have a narrower range of frequency response and still be the better speaker of the two.

The reasons I like the 4 in-wall speakers as compared to the 2 panel speakers are (a) I suspect the panel speakers could lose their focus with all those drivers and HT relies heavily on location of sound and (b) your panel option offered fewer speakers than is required for the full 5.1 program, again compromising location and direction of sound.

I apologize noob. I will have 5.1 whatever I decide to do. I'll be running 2 in-ceiling for the surrounds (not ideal I know but it's all I can have).

I'm just trying to decide what to do about the front L and R.

Paul

[02audionoob]

I hope I'm getting closer to understanding it all, now. I like blackraven's comment about the system being inconspicuous and the one about being able to cross over the sub lower...so I guess I still vote for the in-wall speakers.

[thekid]

I vote for in wall also for home theater. Its a cleaner look. I feel that HT should be inconspicuous if possible. Who wants 5-7 speakers sitting visible in a room? (some people would I'm sure).

You mean like this.......

Sorry could not resist........
Please resume normal serious answers to OP

[poppachubby]

You mean like this.......

Sorry could not resist........
Please resume normal serious answers to OP

hahahahahahaha....well done kid, "the wall". Feared by wives all over the world. Of course, also known for its superb HT application. Oh man, that was perfect timing...

[E-Stat]

Which of the following speaker specifications is "best"?

Unfortunately, that is like asking whether using eight spark plugs is better than six. There are so many other relevant variables to speaker performance. First of all, every speaker exhibits variations around their nominal response. Those two sets of numbers could represent the same speaker using different tolerances.

I'll be happy to comment if you care to provide two real world examples.

rw

[02audionoob]

I thought we are talking about real world examples.

[E-Stat]

I thought we are talking about real world examples.

My mistake - now I see the linked examples. Since neither provides the frequency tolerance, we can only guess. Ideally, a center speaker would use similar drivers as the mains if not a pair of slightly smaller woofers.

rw

[02audionoob]

Choosing from the two options given by the OP, I just wouldn't want to add any more of that particular cabinet speaker. I'd rather have four of the little guy...

http://www.htd.com/cabinet-speakers/...4Pa38Ta38PbN90

[Pat D]

Hi

Which of the following speaker specifications is "best"? Will be used as fronts in conjunction with a sub. 50% music and 50% movies.

(a) 80Hz - 22kHz

or

(b) 50Hz - 22kHz

Thanks


Paul

Those specs are virtually meaningless as they give no plus and minus tolerances. As well, with many manufacturers we have no idea what the speaker specs mean, anyway, like how were they derived (imagination? some sort of measurement?). Does speaker (b) actually go lower than speaker (b)? It's hard to say without measurements.

As well, even with plus or minus limits, the spec gives no suggestion as to the dispersion pattern of the speakers. Some manufacturers do supply such information in minimal form, but few actually supply graphs such as found in Stereophile or Soundstage.

[3db]

Hi

Which of the following speaker specifications is "best"? Will be used as fronts in conjunction with a sub. 50% music and 50% movies.

(a) 80Hz - 22kHz

or

(b) 50Hz - 22kHz

Thanks


Paul

Like Pat D said, these are meaningless in itself. If speaker A had ruler flat frequncy response and speaker B's frequency response was filled with hills and valleys, I would definetaly choose speaker A over speaker B. Frequency response isn't enough. There HAS to be a tolerance +/- ??db..with te smaller the value in ?? the better the speaker. Also missing is sensitivity, input impedance; both nominal and minimum. All these factors into what kind of amplifciation is needed to drive the loudspeaker.